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 KC11    |
Figured this would be a good topic, especially for those who are advanced genetic engineers. Also, I have just finished watching the Dr. Oz program on autism and am a little upset, to say the least. Neurodiversity. The idea that "atypical (neurodivergent) neurological development is a normal human difference that is to be recognized and respected as any other human variation." according to the wiki. Everything from differences in processing texture and sights to ADD or Autism. I plan to write an article about the importance of Neurodiversity, and how one can't just call this a disease and throw medication at it. We need neurodiversity, especially now more than ever in our fast paced, technologically based world. We can accept those of different skin color, eye color, even handedness. Why can't we accept those of a different brain pattern? Personally, if anything, I think that instead of degrading these differences and making more and more medications, we should encourage therapies, parenting support programs, and especially give education the tools to teach these children. So, in order for some help with this article, what are your experiences or opinions on Neurodiversity? Do not upset the ugly worm, lest it be a dragon in disguise. (>oo)> |
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 Gumbo |
3 FREAKIN CHEERS!!! It's time eople stopped yelling at ADD and ADHD and autistic people because of their "defects". I completely agree. We should even learn from them and their ways of thinking in the spring you gotta let the flowers fully blossom |
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 Mousienorn |
Yeah. Just because people have Asperger syndrome or other things like that ain't mean they are dumb. Albert Einstien Was very likley to have had it! My brother has this 'Ability' as I like to call it, and gets GREAT grades. He won many awards in his school for Science, Math and all sorts of stuff. I'd have to be honest and say it does have its downfalls. He has A REALY low atention span but he is as awsome as you can get. 8) Neurodiversity isn't a curse, It's a blessing!   Nornz Rule! "I'm always watching you. " The Creatures ClinicThe Norn dating Agency! Make sure to go to the  |
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 Prodigal Sock Ghosthande |
I most certainly agree. Especially given that some of these things aren't at all "serious", just inconvenient for the teachers who have to "deal with it". So what if a kid has a hard time sitting still for hours on end, has a short attention span, or whatever? Just because they aren't perfectly suited to a school system someone else set up shouldn't automatically be considered a fault. If somebody tried to shove pills at me to "fix" these perceived problems they'd receive a hard kick to the nether regions, not a thank-you. Honestly.  |
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Mousienorn |
Yeah, The school gave him a teachers aid but she was awsome. Insthead at yelling at him or baby talking to him in the lower grades she acually gave him GUM to keep him foucused! Because he had somthing on his body moving he wasent so clumsy, he didn't fall out out of his chair and had many great day! Until they got him a new aid in JR.high she always wanted him to sit in the 'special' desk. He had SO MUCH FUN proving her wrong. Then in his Highschool, He has another nice aid and he is on his second last year! Never faild a grade! I remember seeing a tee-shirt that was a fundraiser for it and it said, " Dont ask me a question, unless, you have 30min of your time to spare, you dont want it soon and if you cant find somone else! I also agree with you. "If somebody tried to shove pills at me to "fix" these perceived problems they'd receive a hard kick to the nether regions, not a thank-you" ~ Ghosthand Nornz Rule! "I'm always watching you. " The Creatures ClinicThe Norn dating Agency! Make sure to go to the |
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 Officer-1BDI |
I feel odd stepping into this topic because this is still a fairly new subject for me to be acknowledging on a personal level. This is where I was a couple of months ago. Little's changed since then, sans more doctors' appointments, but I feel like I'm on the right track. I didn't have the most supportive environment growing up; certain adult figures in my life scorned people with learning disabilities for the "advantages" they got in school and work, and insisted that anything could be overcome with enough self-determination. To be "different" was to be lazy, unmotivated, and generally flawed, so it took me ages to finally own up to the fact that I was struggling. And when I started dropping hints that, hey, I might need a little extra help after all... they were ignored. And I was called out for being an "attention-seeker." I turn 25 soon and I'm only just now starting to evaluate and improve my mental health; I'm furious that it took me so long to get to this point, and I'm even more furious that several of my siblings seem to have similar issues to mine that have essentially been swept under the proverbial rug. So, when KC says this: Personally, if anything, I think that instead of degrading these differences [...] we should encourage therapies, parenting support programs, and especially give education the tools to teach these children. I agree with it full-heartedly. Because I don't want anyone else to ever go through what I went through growing up, and destroying the stigma of mental differences plays a huge role in preventing that. That said, I don't want to knock medications entirely. I don't use them personally (at least not now), and I'm a little shocked by how eager my own doctors seem to be to throw medications at me, but I know other people who rely on them to function. I think they do have their place; it's just a matter of using them responsibly. You have to be honest with yourself when you are writing. If that leads to somewhere unexpected then perhaps you really needed to go there. -- Jim Adkins |
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KC11 |
That said, I don't want to knock medications entirely. I don't use them personally (at least not now), and I'm a little shocked by how eager my own doctors seem to be to throw medications at me, but I know other people who rely on them to function. I think they do have their place; it's just a matter of using them responsibly. I agree with this as well. The reason I knocked medications a bit is this: This is an issue that especially hits home for me. I have three friends with aspergers, one of whom has OCD. My boyfriend has mild OCD. One of my friends is constantly having to take all these medications to "treat" his aspergers, and he's a loaded gun. It's very hard to joke with him, because next thing you know he's on some hundred page yelling rant. Another has instead received support from his family and a therapist, and he's amazingly nice and well adjusted, even if he's slightly odd. Now, I know there are differences in personality affecting this-which is partially why I tend to not approve of the use of medication, since they try to apply a blanket cure to a varied condition. I am fairly sure they are of similar levels too. (in fact, I feel that parents treating their kids like they are "retarded" and need careful attention often makes them so, sadly) I'm going off on a tangent here.  Do not upset the ugly worm, lest it be a dragon in disguise. (>oo)> |
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 Lollipop Lord C-Rex |
I hate it when people get treated differently because of how they were born. I get crap at school because I prefer to be by myself and prefer to do my own thing rather than be an outspoken social butterfly. I'm not autistic or have aspergers, but in my opinion nobody should be treated differently. We're all human beings, after all! |
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Prodigal Sock Ghosthande |
Agreed, C-Rex. I've always been very shy, very quiet, and very literal-minded, and had the same problem, even from my own relatives (some of whom are no different). It's hard to imagine how people with real "conditions" can get fair treatment when any kind of difference is automatically shunned/picked on/antagonized. At least now I feel like I can have the last laugh--I've used my "differences" to become a successful programmer, whereas my classmates are still gushing over boys and fashion. |
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Lollipop Lord C-Rex |
Eurgh, I dislike shallow girls like that, who's lives revolve around fashion and "who's going out with who". You're pretty lucky though, Ghosthande. Many of the girls over here in the UK think that getting drunk every Friday night is having a 'life'. How can that be a life, if nothing useful comes of it? |
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Mousienorn |
The girls in my class make me an outcast because I dont care "who's going out with who". How is it any of their buissness? Nornz Rule! "I'm always watching you. " The Creatures ClinicThe Norn dating Agency! Make sure to go to the |
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 LuciaInFurs |
C-Rex, how can you berate people for judging others who they percieve to be different, and then go on to criticise a group of people for what they do for leisure? I feel this is a contradictory trend in this thread. Yes it's silly that teenage girls are obsessed with boys or fashion, but if you're going to preach tollerance that's something you're going to have to accept to some degree. Frankly, I am not seeing a lot of acceptance in these later posts. The Electric Angels (my blog) http://luciainfurs.wordpress.com/ ~*~*~*~*~*~ "Don't you know there ain't no devil, it's just god when he's drunk"  |
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KC11 |
Eh, all teenagers do silly things to one degree or another. All people do silly things. Which is why I hate those ideas of "oh, teenagers do stupid things" or "oh, women, who can understand them?" because the other side is going "adults do stupid things" and "oh men, who can understand them?" It's a universal human condition. Sorry, little off topic, but I had a point somewhere /starts looking for it Do not upset the ugly worm, lest it be a dragon in disguise. (>oo)> |
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Gumbo |
Paraphrasing KC11: Basically, we wll always see faults in other people. in the spring you gotta let the flowers fully blossom |
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