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Pann
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  1/6/2011

I know this might seem like a silly topic to post, but it geniunely bothers me. Has anyone heard about this? At midnight on New Year's Eve, 3,000 red-winged blackbirds dropped dead in Arkansas, along with a large number of fish dying later on. Then 500 blackbirds died in Louisiana and even in Kentucky.

Now from what I hear, there are birds dying in Sweden and Australia, and more fish in New Zealand and Brazil.

What do you think could be going on?


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Papriko
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  1/6/2011

Aliens that try to rot humans out by destroying the ecosystem. :P

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AquaShee

AquaShee



  1/6/2011

Most likely changes in the weather. The weather system is very complex, and it's entirely possible that freak hailstorms or streams of ice-cold air or pressure changes caused the birds enough damage to kill entire flocks of them in one go.
Same with the fish, since you have 'weather' underwater too. The Gulf Stream and similar undersea currents affect the weather, and are affected by it.


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Ghosthande
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  1/6/2011

I hadn't heard of this, but it sounds strange. Where did you hear about it?

Red-winged blackbirds are marsh birds--I'd be curious to know if they were freshwater or saltwater fish.



 
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  1/6/2011

This is freaky my pet bird was fine before i went out to the new years party but when I came back after the party she was dead T-T

I don't know if it's related or not...

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xrainxofxbloodx

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  1/6/2011

Weather is a possibility I suppose. Either that, or some New-Years-Eve drunks left a lot of things that are toxic to the animals where they could get to it. I.E., perhaps throwing a half empty can/bottle of alcohol in a river. That's just a random thought I my part thought, I don't know if that'd actually kill them.

They should just grab one of the dead animals and perform an autopsy. Come on, use your brains people!


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Pyromaniac605

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  1/6/2011

It could very well be the weather, birds and fish aren't as good as adjusting to weather as mammals are, so weather is the most likely possibility.

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AquaShee

AquaShee



  1/7/2011

Toxins or disease would have been found during the autopsy, too. That, and poisoned or diseased birds don't drop out of the sky like that, they stop flying as they get sicker.

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Ghosthande
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  1/7/2011

I find it hard to believe it could be the weather, unless you're experiencing something as drastic as blizzards. Birds aren't made of glass. You don't find hordes of them dead after any spring freeze, they're native to these regions because they can handle the weather. My guess is that it would be pollution, poison or bacteria/a virus of some kind.

You'd be surprised, AquaShee--one of the least known but most dangerous hazards for pet birds is the bacteria in mammalian saliva. It is extremely fast-acting. I've heard multiple horror stories of people whose pet cat/dog grabbed their bird. The bird didn't have a scratch on it so the person assumed it would be okay, but it ingested some of the bacteria while preening and dropped dead within just a few hours. Certain kinds of bacteria do act very quickly, especially on birds the size of a 'tiel (or a red-winged blackbird).



 
Wiimeiser

Wiimeiser



  1/8/2011

Doesn't that happen because birds have no stomach juices? For the record it seems only mammals actually dissolve their food; others just grind it...

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Ghosthande
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  1/8/2011

...What? :| I think you're thinking of chewing--few animals but mammals chew their food, but all animals (except maybe a few invertebrates) have stomach juices to digest food.


 
AquaShee

AquaShee



  1/9/2011

Things as drastic as blizzards are not uncommon at all at higher altitudes. You don't have to go very high to experience entirely different weather compared to down below. The wind could even be blowing in the opposite direction.

Fast acting poisons or viruses would have to act *very* fast, since a bird that doesn't feel well will land and rest. That's where all those stories come from about birds that didn't fly away from cats or dogs and just sat there until they felt better. Even the cats and dogs know this, because many pet owners have tales of how their precious cat or dog just sat there 'protecting' the poor bird that just flew into the window. The pet didn't eat the bird because it didn't try to run, so it could've been sick.

Although poisons that leave the birds weak against wet and cold weather could be the culprit. They wouldn't kill the bird, but rather stop it from producing the waxy stuff they coat their feathers with. One freak gale and blam, dead birds.

Disorientation is also possible. Fireworks might have caused the birds to fly lower than usual and crash into things, but that wouldn't explain the mass deaths in other locations. Perhaps thunderstorms or extreme weather caused them to fly too low.

Either way, mass bird/fish/whatever deaths are not uncommon in nature, even without human help. If it is caused by us though, we'll have to try and stop it.


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Ghosthande
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  1/9/2011

Fireworks is definitely a good explanation for at least some instances, given that this happened so close to New Year's. Even pet birds would be vulnerable to the noise--some species like 'tiels are prone to "night terrors" and can hurt or even kill themselves by flailing around in the dark. We used to move our 'tiels to the laundry room or a bedroom closet on New Year's night so they wouldn't get too scared.

I'm interested in why a large group of birds might all die simultaneously, but I don't think instances taking place all across the world are related. Newscasters have a tendency to go through "fads" where they all report the same thing. A few years ago it was a fad to report bus accidents. There was a flood of reports on bus accidents all over the world, one or two reported every day. The accidents weren't related in any way other than the fact that buses were involved, and after a few months the reports stopped. It's not like bus accidents had never occurred before then or that they had stopped, just that the media had stopped reporting them. This is probably the same thing.

We don't necessarily know how many birds there were, period, only how many died. Unless people were there at the time to see the birds actually falling out of the sky before their eyes, they may be assuming too much about what happened. 3,000 is a lot of birds, but I've heard of much, much larger flocks--at least one source estimated at around a million birds! 3,000 is just a tiny fraction in comparison.



 
Pann
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  1/10/2011

Woah, I come back and there's all this discussion, I'm amazed!

Well, the weird thing is is a lot of the birds around the world are blackbird species. There have been a few other species of birds dropping like rooks however.

In some blackbirds in Louisiana they found signs of internal injuries like blood clotting, but that was for only that area, and the entire flock had this problem.

But no birds tested have any sign of poisoning or disease in their bodies. Some birds found on the streets were still alive, but just barely.


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Gumbo

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  1/30/2011

This is seriously freaking me out.

SERIOUSLY FREAKING ME OUT.



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Mousienorn

Mousienorn



  1/31/2011

They Probely Just whent into shock due to constent weather change. I mean they stay outside all 24 hours!

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