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Norn Won't Eat   
Dark_Author

Dark_Author



  3/3/2015

I hatched a baby SERU norn from the SERU mod and he won't eat. He is at the child stage now and I have been keeping him alive by injecting him with the food chemicals (so far, he only really craved starch). He will not eat and he will not interact with anything.

I used the vocabulizer to teach him to talk and when I told him to eat (in many different ways) he always replies "eat bad" and "push bad". This has to be a genetic thing (SERU eggs are almost always mutated and messed up in some way).

So, does anyone have any tips for getting him to 1. Think that eating is good and 2. Learn that pushing (or interacting) with things is good?

I actually kind of like the little guy and would rather he not die. I think I may even back him up in case he does, so I can try keep trying to save him.

Any advice would be great.

 
evolnemesis
Code Monkey

evolnemesis



  3/3/2015

'bad' is the classification for the hot rocks in the desert... I'm curious as to what he would do if you put a hot rock by him or put him in the desert after an eruption (just be careful of the radiation during the eruptions)

Anyway, something in his brain seems to be messed up so that he is obsessed with that category of things... 'bad', maybe his instincts tell him that eating them is what he needs to do to get rid of his hunger (or whatever his highest drive is at the time you are asking him).

Try putting him in the isolation/examination chamber in the DS workshop, and use the option to rain food on him in there... with nothing he can see or get to besides food, he might decide to interact with it, although you may still have to order him and spank him a little. He still may not respond though, his brain could just be wired wrong too.

You can try the Creature Remote Control agent... it has a mind reading function that is really good to monitor what they are thinking at all times, and a few functions that can make the creature move and eat and stuff... It SHOULD technically be able to learn from doing those things too, so if you get it to eat food a few times and that reduces its drives, it might start to think of it on its own.


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C-Rex
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  3/3/2015

Sounds like his brain may be wired a little differently, and I don't think it's something that can be fixed, really. What evolnemesis said is spot on, and you should try him with a few pieces of food. While it is your decision whether to keep him alive or not, I don't recommend breeding him as his children may inherit his brain wiring.
 
Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  3/3/2015

Yep, definitely sounds like a brain defect.

Also, you can make food rain on him with Ctrl + Shift + E as well.


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Dark_Author

Dark_Author



  3/3/2015

Thank you, everyone!

I have him in isolation in the DS workshop chamber thing and have been raining food on him to no avail. He won't eat it no matter how many times I tell him to. I'm going to give that Creature Remote Control agent and see if that helps.

 
evolnemesis
Code Monkey

evolnemesis



  3/3/2015

yeah, it's even possible he thinks he is trying to, but his brain is wired to make him do something else... so he might be listening to you say 'eat food', and even trying to eat, but then his brain translates that thought into an action like 'eat bad' and since there is no 'bad' around, his body won't do anything... He is probably just getting that 'bad' neuron stimulated constantly somehow, maybe it's cross-circuited or he has a deformed, extra, or missing lobe or tract in his brain, so he can't focus on anything else...

It's even possible the remote control won't work on him if his brain is messed up enough. Still, it is very useful for that mind-reading function, that should work on pretty much any creature. He also could have a gait problem, he might just not be able to move, in that case also, the remote control probably wouldn't be able to get him to move either.


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"We are a way for the cosmos to know itself." - Carl Sagan

 
Dark_Author

Dark_Author



  3/3/2015

Well, sadly, he didn't make it and I forgot about backing him up.

I did get the Creature Remote Control agent though and it was pretty interesting. It couldn't make him eat, but whenever he though anything, it was always "bad". He started saying he was tired, and the CRC said "rest bad", talking about eating made him think "eat bad" and even "push bad".

I did consider the possibility that he was crossed with a Toxic Norn at some point and tried to offer detritus, but he wouldn't eat that, either. Poor, guy.

 
the1whoscreams

the1whoscreams



  3/3/2015

I think his brain is wired so that the only thing he can think about is "bad." I'm curious as to how he'll react around the subject his mind seems to be incapable of changing.
 


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