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EttinLover

EttinLover
Sweden  


  1/18/2009

Help plz this just happend: I watched my ettins spreading and when some ettins lived in the Jungle. I found then some ettins limping in the Bridge. i watched after toxins in the bodies of them. And i found Heavy Metals in the bodies no bacteria only heavy metals. GOD NO!! I thinked. I killed them and watched every ettin! Every damn 113 ettin. And EVERY one had this mutation. so i lost all my work. This is NOT the first time its the second time. is it any way to prevent this? any kind of new mutation or new agent that can kill the ones with this mutation? So they can get killed when the mutation beggins?

god start over for the 4 time....


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Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  1/18/2009

do the Heavy Metals really damage the Ettins or are they just in them and do nothing?
Heavy Metals make Ettins infertile after a while. when they still breed like hell they are probably immune.

why to get a chemical out of a creature when it doesn't influence it? ^^


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Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  1/18/2009

Papriko's right. If they're actually immune to the effects of the Heavy Metals, that would be a great advantage for them.


 
EttinLover

EttinLover



  1/18/2009

The Heavy Metals are damage them they are not immune... they stopped breeding like hell and pregnancis was geting more and more rare.

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Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  1/18/2009

maybe you already have some eggs? there is also a 'secret' egg-limit

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EttinLover

EttinLover



  1/19/2009

Papriko the problem is not that eggs hatching. The problem are the sick ettins that dies. I need a agent or a new ettin mutation that makes sure it dont happens again.

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Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  1/19/2009

well, ok...
you could try to

A) breed them fast till that mutation is away

B) start again
or
C) try to mix your Ettins some new generation 1 Ettins to compensate the problem

If there is an agent to stop that problem I don't know.
Anybody else some ideas?


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Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  1/19/2009

Even if I knew of such an agent, I can't see how it would help. Maybe I misunderstand what you're saying. If you wind up using agents to make up for potentially fatal mutations, you aren't really improving the gene pool, are you?

I like Papriko's last idea, on breeding in some fresh genes. That's what I do if I notice that a mutation I don't like has cropped up. Just keep an eye on which traits the babies are inheriting, and try to "breed out" this Heavy Metals mutation.

There's a possibility the Genetics Kit might also be of use to you, although I only use it very rarely, so I can't offer much advice there.



 
Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  1/24/2009

Ghosthande wrote:
If you wind up using agents to make up for potentially fatal mutations, you aren't really improving the gene pool, are you?



Yep, she is right. You should think about that.

Imagine you get really such an agent. all your Ettins have no kind of bad mutations.
But when you turn it off your Ettins would probably die out after about five minutes. :\

Did you mean that so Ghosthande?


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Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  1/24/2009

Yeah, that's what I meant.

It's nice to have Agents that improve the lives of your Creatures, but if your agenda is to improve your population's gene pool, it ends up being counterproductive.



 
EttinLover

EttinLover



  1/25/2009

you misunderstand me Ghosthande. But now i got a new problem! Okay this is the story: I was starting over a new ettin wolfing run i fixed the world and planted some plants. As soon the eggs hatched in the Norn Territarium. They was limping... and gues what! HEAVY METALS!!!

......

And NO bacteria!!

.....

so i freaked of and killed them and then hatched some new ettins in the Desert. No heavy metals. And then when they traveled to the Aquarium gues what!! HEAVY METALS!! Help anyone?


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Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  1/25/2009

That's... interesting. Perhaps it's something in that room? Do Norns and Grendels that go into the Aquarium also get heavy metals?


 
EttinLover

EttinLover



  1/25/2009

I don't know i gona test if it is so Ghosthande.

Edit: I has tested if it is the same with norns and grendels and it is the same....They get heavy metals to! But...wow why wasent i thinking on it earlier.. I only need to make my ettins immune to heavy metals....
Whats wrong with me.... O_o


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Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  1/25/2009

the Bacterias really suck... there are always about 20 flying around the Hatchery thing in the Norn-Terrarium (the MA-Gold can make them visible for a while)

you could reset the bacterias with
ject "bacteria.cos" 7


or if you want to remove them permanently from your world, use
ject "bacteria.cos" 1

(not really good, better you just reset them)


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EttinLover

EttinLover



  1/25/2009

Thanks Papriko and Ghosthande for the help! You 2 have saved my Creature hobby. My ettins are immune against heavy metals so no problem anymore! And before i go from this forum..

**** HEAVY METALS!!!

......

hope i don't get blamed for saying this...


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