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 CosmiSynth    |
Hey there people! I don't really post on the forums at all, but I think it's about time I do so I can try and get a particular problem with Docking Station sorted out. There are some third party breeds such as bunny norns and C2toDS norns that I'd like to be able to use, but unfortunately the body data (especially that of the males) is broken enough that the poor things look like disturbing clouds of floating body parts. I'm aware that this is probably because of the mall breeds installing all that extra body data into slots where it shouldn't be, but I'm having a difficult time actually pinpointing which files to delete and exactly what to do afterwards in order to fix things. How do you tell what breed slot, species, and gender an .att file belongs to in order to make these changes? The Crafty Shee & Co. |
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 Wrong Banshee Dragoler |
This page explains the naming system for the sprite and body data files This is a list of all breeds and the slots they occupy It takes a while but they should help you move the correct body data into the correct slots. I think someone here also made a resource to do it automatically but I don't know how it works. Creator of the TWB/TCB genome base.  |
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CosmiSynth |
@Dragoler YES there we go, thank you! These links should be very helpful. I didn't know the wiki had the naming conventions for the .att files listed on it, so even if I can't track down that automatic way to fix things, this makes it doable. By the by, if anybody else has a download link for this tool or other advice, I'd be thankful if you could pop it in here! The Crafty Shee & Co. |
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 Razgriz |
If you want something to help you sort through the extra .att files then you could use a tool called Bulk Rename Utility. When you first load it up it'll look very daunting but stick to it and you'll be able to distinguish the extra files from what the breed actually uses using the filters it provides. Might also be useful for other non-Creatures related things in the future too! |
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 The Mossy Shee Jesseth |
actually, dumb question, but do you need to HATCH a breed in order to get the agent to unpack the atts, or can you just inject an egg of every species to get them all set up before installing mall breeds? I'm working under the assumption that, like other agents, the mall breeds don't replace files where they already exist, they just fill in blank gaps? So hypothetically setting every breed you're using up first should negate the issue? The Mossy Shee & Co |
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 Sanely Insane RisenAngel Manager |
I believe you just have to inject an egg using an egg agent to install a breed. And yes, installing a third party breed first will negate the junk BD the mall breeds install, unless said third-party breed lacks BD for the lifestages the mall breeds install (baby, adolescent, and adult). Risen Angel's Creatures Blog |
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The Mossy Shee Jesseth |
@Grendel_Man thanks! I have a related question actually- since I don't have the folders available in front of me, do you recall if the individual game worlds have their own body data folders? or is there just the one bodydata folder for all? Basically just can this issue be fixed universally, or is it a case by case fix for each created world? The Mossy Shee & Co |
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Sanely Insane RisenAngel Manager |
It's a universal thing for C3/DS, I believe. Risen Angel's Creatures Blog |
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The Mossy Shee Jesseth |
good to know! For the record, in the case of the world CS (and partially me) are trying to fix, we just tried installing every breed aside from the mall breeds at the start of the world, and then hatching a bunny norn (slot O, clashes with harlequins) but the .atts were still garbled for the male. After that we left the world, I extracted the bunny .atts from the agent and we threw those into the body data folder, overwriting the clashes, but when we went back in, the bunny norns were STILL broken. Any ideas? Short of basically wiping the whole game or half the folders and worlds, and potentially losing a lot of work, we're kind of lost. The Mossy Shee & Co |
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 Mioonktoo |
If you're on a newer windows OS, check the appdata folders; They like to hide copies of files in there and that might be part of your garbled .atts issue. From the depths of Deep Lurkspace I emerge... And suddenly can't remember what it is I came up for. |
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CosmiSynth |
@Mioonktoo Darn it appdata! Thanks for the suggestion; I'll give that a shot right now. The Crafty Shee & Co. |
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CosmiSynth |
OKAY TEAM, WE'VE GOT PROGRESS. The problem SEEMS to be fixed (at least for the male bunny norns!). It didn't end up being in appdata, BUT there is more than one location that the body data files are stored! They were in the Creatures folder in My Documents, which is where the data for individual worlds on my computer is also stored! I took all the .att files, new .C16s, etc. from the main Docking Station folder and copied them over into the folders of the same name in the My Documents Creatures folder. SIMPLER VERSION: I copied the folders shared between both locations from here: C ![:\](/images/smilies/confused.gif ":\") GOG Games\Creatures Exodus\Docking Stationto here: C Users\Owner\Documents\Creatures\Docking StationJust for the record, this is on Windows 10. Hopefully this fixed all of the other affected breeds I have, but more likely than not this has helped substantially! No matter what, the bunnies work, and that counts for a lot! The Crafty Shee & Co. |
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Wrong Banshee Dragoler |
Be sure to check the harlequins too. In my world the females had messed up body data as well as the male bunnies and I installed the bunnies first. If you have C12DS you will also need to install all the baby body data of the C1 Grendels into their adolescent and adult slots. Creator of the TWB/TCB genome base. |
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The Mossy Shee Jesseth |
that's a good point Dragoler! Has anyone made female copies of the mall breed body data to fix the potential issues? That said, if their body data is pretty standard, perhaps it would work just as well with say, renamed female chichi files? The Mossy Shee & Co |
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