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I have to keep this appropriate yet still be on point. Cant mention anything like whats between there legs and all that. BUT lets get straight to the point an hopefully not be breaking the forum rules. How do you guys think the shee make little shee? Is it artificial test tube stuff, or is it like us humans, or is it like the norns, ettins, and grendels? Also, what do you think the offspring should be called? Sheelings, little shee, infant shee, shee pups, shee kits???? Shee FOAL?? Same thing for the norns, grendels, and ettins, should baby norns be called kits, baby grendels should be called pups, and ettins should be called infants?? Also, what do baby shee look like? Do they have soft and round faces like human babies? Or some something really grotesque and freakishly ugly! Or something inbetween that makes you go aww! and Eww! and do they have litters or just have babies one at a time? And are the babies smart as there parents once they come out or do they have to learn everything? and are they as funny and clueless as human children?? Ugh, so many questions! "Nuh-uh-uh girl, you do NOT need another pet simulator-" |
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 Peppery One Papriko |
I guess shee started out like humans and, through technological advances, slowly moved the whole stuff into the lab. When they are unlucky and did that for too many generations, they, uh, developed to be unable to do it other than in the lab. When shee are somewhat mammal-like, then the babies look like adults, but disproportioned. The general rule of thumb is limbs too short for the body, head too big for the body and the eyes even too big for the large head. Not sure what to call them, though. For creature baby names: pups makes sense for norns I guess. Infants seems alright for ettins. Lastly, for grendels I would use.... is there any special word for baby reptiles? Lets play plants! Photosynthesis... Photosynthesis... Photosynthesis... |
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SlimeTV |
i think hatchling is for reptiles and kinda suits well for grendels. "Nuh-uh-uh girl, you do NOT need another pet simulator-" |
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 Missmysterics |
It has been mentioned that the Shee were "rather prudish" about how they reproduce and therefore didn't pass on their method to the creatures they created. One would assume they reproduce sexually, or at least used to. To be entirely honest, when you think about it, the methods creatures use isn't a whole lot better, creatures still reproduce sexually...using their mouths, which is kind of gross. Funnily enough I've taken interest in the terminology involved with male/female/juvenile. I believe officially material has had norns take after an animal they're modelled on in the past, for example fallows being bucks and does and siamese being called queens and toms. What about just norns in general? That said, not all animals are labelled in such a way, but it's still fun to think up terms. Personally I've not considered it with the shee, as I kind of considered them to be men, women and babies, though those are arguably human-specific and may not apply. |
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 VioletGrendel |
As per the grendels, baby snakes are called neonates, although that sounds a bit technical . . . What is the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything? 42! |
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 Rha |
Maybe they swallow pumpkin seeds... I personally haven't thought about this at all but when I think alien I think no genders or a lot of genders or something really different. Maybe they need three to reproduce, who knows? With these things I think it's a bit boring assuming they're very much like us.  |
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 Lollipop Lord C-Rex  |
I've often wondered if the Shee are immortal - there aren't any shee remains such as bones/graveyards on Albia, are there?  |
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 Dienes |
I think I saw a slash fic once that covered this. |
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Rha |
Oh god no |
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 Wee Scrivener Trell |
I always figured the Shee weren't far off from humans in that respect.  (Due to the nature of the discussion, I feel obligated to remind people to keep things family friendly~) Trell "Holy crap in a casket!" |
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Wingheart |
Shee babies are probably as funny and clueless as human children. |
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 the1whoscreams |
I usually imagine that they kisspop. |
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Missmysterics |
"Neonate" is any baby animal I kind of like buck, doe and kit (as in rabbits) for norns. I kind of like brute,broad (terms meaning "uncouth man" and "uncouth woman" respectively. I mean it affectionately, honest.) and whelp for grendels. Somehow I get the feeling Ettins would use "actual" names like jack and jill (I believe hares are jacks and jills?) young would be pups...or ettlets/ettlings Group names are a bit more tricky, since they reflect social nature, possibly a crowd of norns or a horde of grendels. Default ettins just aren't social so maybe a grudge of ettins (since they dislike just about everyone.) |
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 Jodie |
I always wondered if Shee gave live birth, or if they laid eggs like the creatures?    |
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Wingheart |
There was a canon thing somewhere saying that the Shee made the norns use a different method of reproduction than them-they probably do it like humans. |
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Dienes |
Human reproduction is pretty close to norn reproduction, though. Shee reproduce via budding. |
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Wingheart |
I think Shee babies have smaller heads, proportionally, than human babies, because I headcanon them as continuing to have their brains grow for a bit after birth. They're probably ugly cute like baby birds. Not chicken type baby birds, other kinds. Also Norn reproduction is done with organs in the mouth, Shee reproduction is probably done with organs between the legs. |
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VioletGrendel |
Perhaps a babble of Norns? :b What baby she look like probably depends on what the adults look like. I always imagined them furry and absurdly thin, myself. So maybe the babies would look like furballs on legs? What is the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything? 42! |
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Wingheart |
They canonically have fur (Siamese story, 'fur on the back of his neck' instead of 'hair on the back of his neck') so maybe the babies would look like fluffballs on legs. It'd take them a few days to a few weeks to grow that much fluff though, you don't want lots of fluff in the egg/uterus it's wet in there. Also I headcanon Shee as having tails for some reason. |
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Peppery One Papriko |
When they have fur, there is nothing wrong with being born with fully developed fur. No need to grow it after being out. When our guinea pigs got babies, they just had to be cleaned by their mum and after that looked exactly like tiny versions of their parents, with fuzzy hair all over the body and everything Lets play plants! Photosynthesis... Photosynthesis... Photosynthesis... |
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 SpaceShipRat |
Even baby humans have fur sometimes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanugo I see Shee having fur where an orangutan has it, but shorter. Babies would look like baby orangs  My half-formed idea is that they have a normal pregnancy, but then give birth to a premature baby which completes it's development in some kind of incubation device. This would allow them to have big headed, therefore clever babies, despite being lanky. Humans are limited in the evolution of their brain by the trouble we already have giving birth. It would also give them a chance to survive with no technology, if they could only have babies through machines, they'd be an extremely vulnerable species. |
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 Lodestar Doringo |
SpaceShipRat wrote: Especially since they are a precursor race that created the Norns. |
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Dienes |
SpaceShipRat wrote: Except brain size isn't as important to intelligence as the number of neurons and neuron connections. Also, humans haven't 'limited our evolution.' Evolution doesn't work that way. |
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Missmysterics |
Spaceshiprat meant that our brain size specifically is limited by a female's ability to give birth, presumably contributing factors like the width of the pelvis are also impacted by needing to maintain our ability to walk. It would be possible to have an increase in brain size but women would probably have to evolve to be bigger or have larger pelvises, which seems to either take longer to evolve than a bigger brain, or not be adaptive in other ways. Also it's true that the amount of neurons and neuron connections is the real factor behind intelligence, but neurons take up space, it's less an issue than people used to think it is, but it's still an issue. |
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 The Mossy Shee Jesseth |
If you dig around, despite the fact that we (and even the game code?) call it kiss-popping, I'm pretty sure it says in canon writing somewhere that norns rub noses to reproduce. Fun! "Norn mating is a delicate affair, not at all like our hot and sweaty efforts, and probably not nearly as fun either. But Norns enjoy the moment, which consists of them rubbing noses together. When they are mating, you will hear a long kissing sound followed by a pop." (page 40) With the fact that it's similar but not the same to real kissing, and the fact that kiss-popping keeps getting mentioned, maybe Shee kiss-pop in the literal sense? Kind of like the difference between say, belly-bumping cutely or snuggling and actually... doing the do the mammal way? That's probably no closer to an answer than anyone else's but I do find it funny that they don't 'kiss' but it still gets called kiss-popping. Kind of like a shee slipped up somewhere with their wording hehe~ In rp though, I consider it to be kissing-related for shee when the topic comes up OvO; As for the fact that all of them lay eggs whether they be scaly or furry (aside from game mechanics obs) I always figured they're something akin to monotremes or synapsids! aka similar to early mammals where they're warm blooded and can be furred but still lay eggs- norn eggs hatch pretty fast which is similar to modern monotremes too! Also they seem to have a lack of nips/mammaries which lends to the 'not a true mammal' thing as well. Whether or not shee would have mammaries is likely a mystery but I can see it not being a thing? The Mossy Shee & Co |
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SpaceShipRat |
The existence of cheese is the one hint lactating creatures exist since Albia. But it might just be a synthetic product that happens to resemble cheese. |
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Wingheart |
Or made from fatty tuba juice. |
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Peppery One Papriko |
How about grazers? They always seemed like weird pig/cow/zebra crosses. Maybe they lactate? Delicious grazer cheese! Lets play plants! Photosynthesis... Photosynthesis... Photosynthesis... |
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SpaceShipRat |
Yes, I was guessing grazers, which would prove that milk is a thing that exists in albian biology, so shee might also be able to breastfeed. But there's cheese, and no grazers in C1 and C2. I actually really like Wingheart's hypothesis that "cheese" might be the product of some tuber. |
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 Code Monkey evolnemesis |
Knowing the Shee, to get cheese, the tuba was created by splicing the DNA of some natural mammalian grazer from an alien planet with several other species, to make a mutagenic fertilizer for a plant whose infused roots could be grafted onto another plant to allow it to attract and mutate specially designed insects, which, when fertilizing a different flower genetically made for the purpose, altered it in just the right way so that it produced Tuba seeds instead of those of its own species... The fat from the dairy protein rich Tubas could then be extracted by an extremely complex process, involving more genetically altered bacteria and other species, along with a host of extractors, separators, cheese making machines, cheese making machine making machines, cheese making machine making machine part making machines, and so on... Getting it straight from the grazer and any local bacteria I don't think would even occur to them. "For small creatures such as we, the vastness is bearable only through love." "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself." - Carl Sagan |
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SpaceShipRat |
"natural mammalian grazer from an alien planet" Hah! that is a very big assumption, that albian shee would have contact with other planets! It seems to me one of the tenets of Shee history is that they never paid much attention to space, and when they realized planets were huge spheres rather than tiny disks like albia, they immediately set off for the skies (and do so before The Lone Shee realizes the ark is being built). (I do see your point about shee mentality, and overcomplicating things.) Coming back to the topic then, it seems like it's inconclusive whether the existance of cheese can even imply the existance of milk, nevermind if shee themeselves do breast-feed. |
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Wingheart |
Shee have fur but then so do bees. ...maybe shee reproduce like bees. |
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The Mossy Shee Jesseth |
did somebody say shee and bees in the same sentence~? not quite 100% related to the discussion, but i always love Chameleonsushi's Bee Shee<3 Also not sure if it's interesting to anyone in the topic, but everyone in that group of fan-shee is depicted with fur (and/or sometimes scales) and as egg layers? Since that seems to be the most predominant way of reproducing on albia! Not that it's any more right or wrong than anyone else's, just fanon stuff based on poking at what canon could be dredged up. c: The Mossy Shee & Co |
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SpaceShipRat |
Well, bees pretty much have breeding vats. Moving from the biological to the cultural, I think there might be strict rules on who's allowed to reproduce, given their "planet" is so tiny, and therefore fragile. I like to think they're not imposed by some political ruler or biological queen bee but just societal rules everyone follows because it would be unthinkable not to. In my mind, shee society works on the "What would the neighbors THINK" rule, the fear of shunning, typical among small, tight-knit societies. A shee wouldn't go against the Way Things are Done, because being excluded would feel like being dead. EDIT: Sorry, start me on shee, and I can't stay within a single topic. Yes, eggs would be the obvious deduction, but how would you pass an egg the size a baby shee would have to be? Maybe the answer is in how norn eggs "grow", perhaps they have some kind of soft, leathery skin like reptile eggs, and they can stretch out to accommodate a growing body. But where does the extra mass come from? Perhaps the eggs are indeed meant to be dipped in a nutrient solution, and we're back to vats anyway |
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Wingheart |
I saw a thing where the egg contained extremely concentrated, almost powdery stuff, and the creature inside ate at the inside of the egg (allowing the leathery outside to expand after the hard inside was split up and then all eaten) and water was taken in from outside humidity, so the creature got the extra mass as water. Dunno if it'd work. And maybe shee have pouches which fill with nutrient solution naturally when they lay, and then the egg goes in there? |
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Peppery One Papriko |
I think the super dense eggs make sense. It'd explain how the eggs grow without external extra mass. They indeed keep their mass, not violating any laws of physics, but due to the living tissue being a lot less dense than nutritious goo or powder or whatever, the same mass occupies more volume. The egg grows. Lets play plants! Photosynthesis... Photosynthesis... Photosynthesis... |
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