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Help Forum My Gaius All Sound Like Gaia    GrayDragonEmily        3/11/2015 All my Gaius (both regular and colortrue) sound like Gaia, even though I am not using Gaia and I have all of the Gaius sounds (both male and female.) I think it has something to do with me trying to inject Gaia (in a docked world) and getting errors (the errors appeared on the injection screen.) However, the female Gaius sounds are supposed to overwrite Gaia's sounds, and I even have the female Gaius sounds in the C3 folder. What's going on? -GrayDragonEmily   Prodigal Sock Ghosthande     3/11/2015 I have a few suggestions that might help. 1. Do you have the Remastered Patch? Weird stuff tends to happen if you try to use 3rd party stuff without the patch. I assume you probably do, but it's always worth asking. 2. Are you using Exodus by any chance? Exodus tends to split files between Program Files and My Documents, so if they're in the wrong place, the game won't notice them. 3. Is User Account Control turned on? Some versions of Windows, like Vista and Windows 7, will stash files in "hidden" folders instead of putting them in Program Files, and it can sometimes cause annoying stuff like this.   GrayDragonEmily     3/11/2015 Thanks for telling me that, Ghosthande. I just disabled the User Account Control, but how should I go about finding the hidden folders? -GrayDragonEmily   Code Monkey evolnemesis   3/11/2015 If you have Exodus, it's likely that you just need to copy the gaius sound files from the sounds folder in your C3/DS Program folders to the corresponding folder in My Documents, or vice-versa. If you have a folder with just all the new gaius sounds in it somewhere, just copy all of them into both places, overwriting any older files. (I used to frequently copy folders in documents back and forth to programs, like the image, sound, agents, and catalogues folders, just to make sure they always had the same contents) As for hidden folders, in my experience it tended to only affect the things like gene editor and things I did with the CAOS tool or the sprite or PRAY editor... mostly settings or output files from programs that deal with the games, and normally would save or edit things in the game's program folders, but don't quite have the rights under user account control to save there, so the OS hides the files it makes or touches somewhere else... Then that program is still able to access those files (but only that program), and if you open a file explorer in the program, like from an 'open file...' or 'save...' in a menu, you will see the files there, right where the program thinks they should be (then you can sneakily use the explorer window it gives you to copy those files to the desktop or something). But otherwise, you will not find them on the file system with File Explorer, even in administrator mode (my guess is they are in a totally different place, not where they would normally be saved, either that or they have their access levels set so that only the program that saved them can see them). Agents and files that unpack from agents never did that for me, I think because the games mostly have proper rights to unpack stuff to their own program folders, and in the case of exodus, when they don't they will just unpack to that folder in documents... What always happened for me is the files just went into the wrong folder (the one in documents instead of the one in programs, or vice-versa) a lot of the time. "For small creatures such as we, the vastness is bearable only through love." "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself." - Carl Sagan   Prodigal Sock Ghosthande     3/11/2015 I wouldn't advise switching off User Account Control completely if it was already on... potential security benefits aside, now your computer won't read any of the files saved in the hidden folders, which can affect any number of other programs. I'd recommend turning it back on and just running the game (and any related programs, eg. editors and such) in Administrator Mode if you can. Then your computer will recognize that it has the rights to save stuff in the correct place. You can even right-click the game shortcut and tell it to always run it in admin mode, for convenience. As for retrieving files from the hidden folders: the exact path differs a bit depending on what version of Windows you have. I'm using Windows 7 currently, so for me it's C:/Users/(my account)/AppData/Local/ and then look for your Docking Station folder from there. Off the top of my head I don't remember the path on Vista, but you can probably Google it if you need to. You might have to change a setting in your file browser to make the hidden folders visible, because AppData is one of them and may be hidden by default.   Code Monkey evolnemesis   3/11/2015 What Ghosthande said... but realize that even then the games are still liable to save some things in the wrong place sometimes... to documents instead of programs, for example. It's just quirky like that, even with the Creatures Remastered patch and even if you keep UAC disabled (I tried disabling it too when I was having issues, and it was not really helpful at all, and it really does protect your computer from a lot of the worst types of malware, so I re-enabled it and just ran any editing programs as administrator). Your best bet at this point really is just to make sure your sounds, images, agents, catalogues, and other stuff like that which have folders in both programs and documents always have the same contents. If you have a problem with an agent, 80-90% of the time it will just be from something being in the wrong folder (the autonamer 'Protective Tub', for example, tends to save its 'random-name-bits.catalogue' to the wrong 'catalogues' folder when it is first injected in Exodus). "For small creatures such as we, the vastness is bearable only through love." "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself." - Carl Sagan   GrayDragonEmily     3/12/2015 Well, I typed in CUsers\Emily\AppData\Local, and it worked, but there is no Creatures 3 or Docking Station folder there. I typed in CUsers\Emily\AppData\Local\Docking Station and CUsers\Emily\AppData\Local\Creatures 3, but I still didn't find anything. My documents doesn't seem to have anything involving C3/DS either. I also did the open file thing on paint, and there weren't any Gaia sounds in either sounds folder. I had both sets of Gaius sounds, though. I can't figure out where the Gaia sounds are coming from and I even uninstalled C3 and DS earlier today, deleted all related files, reinstalled C3 and DS, downloaded and placed all the stuff I intend to use (no Gaia this time,) and both my male and female Gaius still sound like Gaia. Ghosthande and evolnemesis, thanks for telling me how important the UAC is. I turned it back on. -GrayDragonEmily   Code Monkey evolnemesis   3/12/2015 Ah ok, if you have Exodus, then there would be a My Documents/Creatures folder , with both a Creatures 3 and a Docking Station folder inside of it, and then sounds, images, agents, folders in those... (Albian Years also uses My Documents/Creatures and puts a Creatures 1 and Creatures 2 folder) If not, and you just have the original C3 and the free DS from the download, then I think you just need to make sure the games run as administrator and you should avoid issues (though, check the game folder for multiple executables, I think you need to make sure ANY executables the game might use all run as administrator and/or possibly Windows XP compatibility mode) . Your issue is weird though, it really sounds like there are other game folders, or something hidden somewhere... And you are sure that the Gaia sounds are in neither your C3 or DS sounds folder? docked worlds especially could be using sounds from either folder, overriding sounds from the C3 folder if they are found in the DS folder. "For small creatures such as we, the vastness is bearable only through love." "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself." - Carl Sagan

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