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Ghost_Norn

Ghost_Norn
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  8/29/2013

(first of all, sorry to be disturbing)


Ok, this is killing me. After the problems I've discovered yet another seems to be haunting me -.-
After I sent my female norn to the Norn Terrarium (this morning) I've exited Creatures and I returned a while ago (night already :P) and discovered that for some reason, the gosh-hawk, the elevator and the thingy on top of the environment agent injector appear duplicate. The three have duplicated when I've used then, in the case of the gosh-hawk when I picked him up. The bird(s) doesn't(don't) bug me at all, but it is the other two that look awkward. I don't know what caused that, I've even created another world to see if the same happens, and yes, it is confirmed. The elevator, if I call it to one of the other available floors, well, it goes, but it leaves another one behind. That one can also be controlled, and in rare cases, when I press the button on one of the floors, they both go there. Although it seems more practical, is actually a little awkward. The thingy on the environment agent injector, if I open the panel and then close it, it goes down, but leaves a copy that just stays up. And in some worlds the screen on the panel flickers when it is on. I'm not sure what was the cause of it, maybe (or not) it is related to the fixes I've installed from here, however I have installed them before ( a long ago) and I don't remember it happening. I didn't find it in any other agent so far.
Noting I am playing DS Docked, GOG Creatures Exodus, and if it matters, Windows 8.1 Preview.

PS: sorry If my posts are huge, I just want to describe the problem as best as possible

EDIT:not sure if related, but when installing magic word core and magic words room edits, when typing "help", the first page appears normal, but if I go to the next page, the words from the first and the number of pages I go to appear staked


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Trell
Wee Scrivener

Trell


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  8/29/2013

You could use CAOS and kill the agents?

Trell
"Holy crap in a casket!"

 
Ghost_Norn

Ghost_Norn


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  8/29/2013

Haven't thought of that. The problem is I don't know how to do it :/

Previously known as Norn_XXL
 
Tarilithina

Tarilithina


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  8/29/2013

To kill the duplicates, put the hand over the agents, press control+shift+c, type "kill hots" without quotes, and repeat for anything else you want to remove.
Control+shift+c opens up the CAOS command line, "kill" means to get rid of an agent, and "hots" targets whatever is under the hand.


Hi!
 
Ghost_Norn

Ghost_Norn


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  8/29/2013

Thanks Tarilithina, I will try that in the morning, right now I'm too sleepy :D
And also thanks to DarbyDoo :)


Previously known as Norn_XXL
 
Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  8/30/2013

Another tip for kill/hotsing lotsa objects: when you just hit enter in the CAOS command line without typing anything at all, it will simply repeat the command last used. That even works when you close and re-open the console or even reload the world.

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Ghost_Norn

Ghost_Norn


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  8/30/2013

Thanks for the tip Papriko! :)

Previously known as Norn_XXL
 
Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  8/30/2013  1

Just make sure that you do not forget what the last command was. When you sometimes chem your creatures for example and somtimes kill hots stuff, it may happen that you suddenly kill hots your norn when you are not careful.
Just do not rely on the repeat function too much, then you are fine.
Better retype the command when you are unsure.


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Jessica

Jessica


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  8/31/2013

I actually had the same problem with the Magic Words "help" pages stacking on top of each other. I ended up fixing the problem, but genius me didn't document how I got it fixed. Something tells me that this was a case of duplicate catalogue files, which I had in multiple places. Did you install your GOG.com copy to My Documents, or did it install folders in multiple places (My Documents and the C drive)? I'll have a look at my installation setup when I get a chance to see if I remember anything else that might help you out. The "kill hots" command definitely helps, although I'm sure it would be better to have everything work from the start!

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Missmysterics

Missmysterics



  9/2/2013  1

You can kill the agents, but that doesn't change the fact they duplicated which means something is up, kill-hotsing only gets rid of the symptom, and the lifts may not work properly if you do so.

It seems like you've got two copies of the lifts' .cos file, one in the Creatures 3 folder and one in the Docking station folder.
In wich case, you need to do the following;
Go to \Docking Station\Bootstrap\010 Docking Station* ,then find 'lifts.cos', and delete it, It's a Creatures 3 file and if Docking Station has it, it causes issues like this.

Wether the duplicate file is present or not, it would be a good idea to try and open CAOS prompt and type: ject "lifts.cos" 7
After you've done the rummaging in the bootstrap folder of course, this removes the lifts then injects them again.

*GOG's Creatures Exodus has two 'main directories' by default; one in 'my documents/Creatures
and the other in 'program files/GOG.com/creatures Exodus' I don't recall which has the functional bootstrap folder.



 
Wiimeiser

Wiimeiser



  9/2/2013

The one in Documents doesn't have a Bootstrap or My Agents folder.

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