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 autogatos    |
I've been having this bizarre problem with my C3/DS games lately, where at some point a while into the game, all my norns will become frozen in place. They will typically be stuck in a crouching/laying position, facing forward (although I've had a few side-facers) all at the exact same time. Nothing I do can get them out of this position, so they just slowly starve to death since they're unable to move and I basically have to scrap the whole world. Has anyone else ever encountered this problem? Unfortunately it occurred after I'd downloaded a ton of new metarooms and fixes so it's been nearly impossible to trace the potential cause. So far it seems like it's only happening in worlds docked with the C3 ship (running an undocked game right now and so far no problems, but it may be too soon to tell). I had installed a patch a while ago that improves the ecology of the norn terrarium on the C3 ship and it seemed like it might have started occurring shortly after that, but I'm not entirely sure. Any tips on what this might be? It takes several hours to show up and I have so many agents and patches in my game that it would be insanely time consuming to go through them each one by one and wait to see if it happens, so I'm a little stumped. |
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 Rat-tailed |
I downloaded that 'fix' once. It messed up my games. Had to reinstall BOTH C3 and DS. That's a nice 'fix' if you ask me. Maybe we both installed them in the wrong place? I installed mine in the C3 folder, not the DS folder, and I heard Vampess didn't create her stuff for C3 standalone. I could be wrong though. Other than this, I'm not sure what could be up. |
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autogatos |
Yeah I'm not actually sure where I installed them, it was quite a while ago. What specifically did they do to your game? I wonder if I've had any of the same problems. I've considered just doing a fresh install, but was hoping to avoid that since it's such a pain trying to remember what all I need to patch/copy over again. I've only had this problem with the games installed on my laptop, and I have a cleaner install on my desktop (no patches other than the basic needed ones to make the game run properly), so I'm hoping if I can narrow down the exact cause, I can just copy clean files over from there without doing a fresh install. |
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 KittyTikara |
The only agent I can think of that would freeze all of the norns would be the "New Shortcuts" file from here. Did you install it, because if your did all you'd have to do is press ctrl+shift+7. If you didn't install that then I have no idea what else might cause it. The Mobula Ray - My Creatures blog |
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 TheSecond |
The only time I have had this happen is with Amaikokonut's DS Splicer, in the Capillata hub, after forgetting to disable the 'Sleeping Gas' option. My favorite norn is still Belldandy. |
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 Malkin Manager |
Is it Eat Elevator Syndrome? My TCR Norns |
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 Patient Pirate ylukyun Manager |
I thought that too, but it sounds like it's happening to all the Norns at once. |
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Malkin Manager |
Try pushing Ctrl Shift P - is the value greater than 1? If so, you may need to uninstall some agents or reduce the population to make the game run at the proper speed. My TCR Norns |
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autogatos |
KittyTikara wrote: D'oh! I just tested those commands in one of my old "broken" worlds and sure enough, that was the problem! I have no idea how I accidentally kept hitting that shortcut to begin with (or if somehow it was getting triggered some other way), but either way, Ctrl+Shift+7 seems to fix it. Thank you so much! I had completely forgotten I'd installed that agent. |
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Malkin Manager |
That's part of the reason why the Love and War Magic Words was made - so that people wouldn't accidentally trigger the 'freeze' command on their norns and not know what they'd done. My TCR Norns |
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