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 Norngirl    |
I was unsure if I should post this in General or here,but feel free to move it if it do fit better in general (sorry about that,also if) ^^' Just wanted to announce that I updated my site a bit and added following: CA to DS related **************** ¤ Genetic Update - with Hairless Norns. ¤Genetic Update -Now with breed & mutate-ablehairs! Creatures Village *************** ¤Genetic update - breed & mutate-able hairs EDIT: I added a Readme text to it now! The Hairless one is not realy anything special - just CA(toDS) norns without theyre hairs - but for anyone who is interessted in them,they are there. The Breed & mutate-able hairs (both for DS and CaV) allow you to finaly be able to breed CA Norns with different hairstyles if theyre different breed of Norns (Primrose with Alba etc). They will look like normal CA norns,but once they breed - theyre offspring will be : A. Normal looking with same standard hairstyle as usual or B. Have moms hairstyle or Dads hairstyle! EDIT: I added a image of how it may look like on my page. That at last add a bit of interessting mixes,so it just won't be the standard head,body,arms,legs and tail mixes - now you can mix hair too! Note: The hair addition and the hairless ones for DS do not have egg agents,as mentioned on my site -but there is Adult starter pairs and the genetic pack wich allow anyone to inject eggs via loading the genom. Hope some people will enjoy this ^^ |
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 Bifrost |
Cool. Will they be able to breed with DS norns? And will we get "double hair syndrome" in DS+CS/CA mixes? |
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Norngirl |
They will be able to breed with DS ones,but be prepared they will get double hair syndrom as you said,or as I call it - floating hair XD It's because the hair is bigger compared to regular Norns and that the CA hair sits well only on CA ones,I have no clue how to fix such - I think it may have something to di with Dementchild's bugfix ( that agent thast important to inject into DS for CA norns to work at all) X_X' Breeding/mixing CA norn breeds with each other is most recommended to avoid the weirdness of that hair issue on other creatures,sorry ^^' So thats limited to the following breeds of CA: Pipinn,Malay,Primrose,Alba,Okapi,Tiger,Cave |
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Bifrost |
It's probably got to do with how the DS norns don't have .att files that support hair. To make that work, one would have to edit the .att files for all DS norn heads or something, I guess. The CA/CV norns have separate ears as well, don't they? |
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 vampir-maniac |
Sounds cool, would be great if you could do the same for DS breeds! Cute pixel art DeviantArt Account |
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Norngirl |
@Bifrost: yeah - hair and ears are seperate on CA/CP Norns and use atts for ears and hair alike,I think. I guess one could try edit the atts for that,but I guess it would be kinda hard - also I somehow suspect the bugfix agent has something to do with those extra parts to do wit, but I can be very wrong,thought. I allways wondered what exactly it alters,hmm o.o @vampir-maniac: Actuly it seem C3-DS Norns (or creatures in general) where meant to have seperate hair,as there exist in the apperance genom *hair* as a extra "limb thing",so to speak. (thats how I was able to do this addons anyway). I wonder why they did not use to make extra hairs for them O.o It's not impossible to still try do hair as seperate sprites,but the dumb thing is C3-DS norns are like C1 and C2 Norn sprites = whole heads ,no seperate ears and hair. I do know that Creatures adventure and Creatures 3 was made at the same time *if im not recalling it wrong?* and they both use the same engine,but still they could have deleted that hair option in the C3 Genetic kit if they wanted,unless they kept it because they know there is curious people *like me* who was able to discover that CAv genoms can be loaded and tinkered with C3 Genetic Kit as well X3 *Creatures Playground didn't come until later* So making extra hair would be a bit tricky in that part where the "real" hair underneath is showing. Unless someone want to make bald versions of them all,and that would be just too much work @_@' Another idea is that people could try make future breeds bald with theyre own hair XD How much cool it would be for doing the same with DS Creatures,Im unable to do anything with that for now,for now - Im glad I was able to try something I thought wasn't possible ^^ |
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 Prodigal Sock Ghosthande |
Neat genetics updates NornGirl! Sounds exciting.  Yeah, the ATT coordinates for hair and ears on the head of C3/DS Norns is set to "zero zero"... basically, the developers just didn't bother to put the coordinates in since they weren't going to use them. But if hair/ears are available, the game interprets the "zero zero" literally as meaning the top left corner of the sprite. ![:\](/images/smilies/confused.gif ":\") Having separate hair/ears is important for any clothing that goes on the head, since clothing doesn't have different sprites for different expressions. I'm sure one of the reasons they stopped having separate hair/ears in C3/DS is that they didn't use clothing in those games, so it wasn't (as) necessary. Making clothes look good on Norns whose ears and hair are part of their head sprites is pretty difficult!  |
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Norngirl |
Thanks - yeah sure it add a bit more in the breeding department a bit X3 Ah I see now! Thanks so very much for explaining all this! Yes,I fully can see now how it works O.o' I still find it funny thought that Genecit Kit C3 still kept the hair part in the apperance genom as a option,when they could easily skip it XD Also - I wanted to say I updated the Creatures Village Hairdo genetic pack with a Readme text now. I also added a image on my site that show the possible hairdo mixes of example parents (dosn't matter if it's the real Creatures Village or the Ca2DS Hairdoupdate). |
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 Liil |
Hi, it is not possible to download the CA Breeds for DS, the link on your website is broken. I hope you can upload the CA Breeds for DS again, it would be verry nice |
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 Peppery One Papriko |
This topic is about a year old or so and Norngirl did not show up on this site for quite a while. Perhaps the LDD have better chances to find a download for you. Lets play plants! Photosynthesis... Photosynthesis... Photosynthesis... |
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 Lollipop Lord C-Rex |
Liil, please don't revive old topics, you should try the Lost Download Detectives topic instead as Papriko suggested. |
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 Malkin Manager |
Liil wrote: That's interesting - which file did you try to download? I've tried emailing Norngirl, so hopefully she'll see that. My TCR Norns |
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Norngirl |
@Papriko, long time, no see - yeah it been years I been not around, but I have a reason. Bad internet and bad,problematic and complex stuff going on in my life that been ever since I vanished, I still dont know how the outcome will be, I dont want to go in details but least have a bit more info on my DA (DeviantArt) journal,as well my sis. Im only able to get online trough my sis laptop sometime and on phone (wich I am on right now, hard to type, but hey I try XD So thats the very reason I havent been around... @Malkin - on wich e-mail did you try to contact me? @Liil - hmm I realy need to chek that, im pretty sure it shouldn't be down, Could you please tell me the filename you tried to download? I am going to add some new stuff to the site anyway. I wich I could add the files underneath each of my stuff.. Edit: dont mind funny misstypings, I do it lot worse now with the phone versus my old fast typing >_> |
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Malkin Manager |
I'll PM you with the email address I used. Hope everything's going better for you now. My TCR Norns |
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 SpaceShipRat |
OH MY GOD NORNGIRL YOU'RE ALIVE  </yelling> |
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