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 biohaze   |
Is there anyway to get the official breeds still? Seen them on torrents just no seeders. . . . Grow Shrooms |
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 Jessica  |
Which official breeds, Biohaze? Please be careful about asking for the C3/DS Mall Breeds that used to be for sale: Sharing these publicly has not been allowed, and we're not too keen on making the links to any torrents or other means available. With that said, it looks like the Creatures Lab site is a bit broken when it comes to finding the free breeds (Fallow, Magma, Siamese, etc.). Strange! |
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 Prodigal Sock Ghosthande |
I'm not certain which breeds you're looking for. As Jessica mentioned, the breed packs that come with agents, eg. the Treehuggers or Bondi Norns, are still off-limits as per Gameware's policy and promoting public distribution is not allowed. The breeds that did not come with agents, eg. the Harlequin, Fallow, Zebra, Magma, and Siamese Norns, have been made free to share; but Gameware seems to have dumped them when they revamped their site. Given that they are .exe files, however, you may be in for a bit of difficulty receiving them; some email providers really don't like that kind of file.  |
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 Tea Queen Laura |
As far as I know, the general rule still is that Gameware have said the sharing of the Mall-only packs (i.e. Treehuggers, Bondis, Hardmans, Toxics, etc.) may be discussed in private, via PM or e-mail, but not publicly on any forum, nor may they be posted online in any form. The free-to-share, ex-Mall breeds that Ghosthande and Jessica have mentioned aren't visibly available from the Gameware site anymore, but you can grab them from this sneaky link here. ![[nsmile]](/images/smilies/emot_smile.gif "[nsmile]") |
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Jessica |
Thanks for posting that link, Laura! I knew there had to be some directory available for those free downloads... Figures it was the most obvious, and the one I ignored. Hopefully those pages will be back up at some point: They had some useful information about what each download included. |
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biohaze |
Ya thanks for that directory link Laura. Would have taken me quite a bit of digging to find that! Ya I wish my OLD drive was still kicking. I use to have most of that info stored! Along with a massive amount of agents and my own private agents. I still hoard info on games i love. Its a good habit for times like this. *edit* Also forgot to mention ya i was talking about ALL the official/mall packs for sprites and other things Grow Shrooms |
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 SpringRain |
Hmm, I regret not buying them when I had the chance. Still, there are lots of other fabulous Norn Breeds out there! ^_^ I'm back after 11 years. Holy dooley! |
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 lisha777 |
What about Tree hugger norns? Can you get them anywhere?! I saw a norn named Sparky in those downloads Laura. Who is he? I did download him but why was he in the downloads? ‘All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.’ – Gandalf the Grey |
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 Malkin Manager |
In about 1997, Cyberlife (as the company was known then) offered a few norns up for adoption - Sparky was one of those.  My TCR Norns |
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 Lollipop Lord C-Rex |
Personally I think its pretty silly that Gameware are so ticked off about people sharing the breeds, as there is no way to legally acquire them. To me it essentially feels like they're "hoarding" them away from us and snapping at anyone who illegally distributes them. If they were available to buy from GoG.com, then I wouldn't feel this way. ![[angry]](/images/smilies/angry.gif "[angry]") Sorry for ranting, but it just annoys me what Gameware has done with the Creatures franchise. If they really want to generate revenue, reopen the dang Creatures Mall! |
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Prodigal Sock Ghosthande |
If you'd read Laura's post you'd see that they aren't "ticked off" over it at all? They just don't want people to share them publicly, which frankly I find totally reasonable. |
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Jessica |
I've tried contacting Gameware on multiple occasions to get some type of official response about the Mall Breed Packs. I sent in a contact form on the new site back in July... Still no response. I even would have settled for a boiler plate reply saying thanks for the inquiry, but I've heard absolutely nothing yet. I agree with you, C-Rex: They should either be made available for purchase somewhere, or those who have them should be able to freely distribute them. Gameware has the power... They just need to make a decision! |
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Lollipop Lord C-Rex |
Wasn't there a petition or something to get them released on GoG.com, or has it been removed? |
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Prodigal Sock Ghosthande |
I believe it's been removed. But given that representatives of GW have stated (on two separate occasions) that they will allow folks to share privately via email, I suppose it's not that much of a letdown. |
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 silvak |
I like how they phrased their statement on the issue.....I, personally, would gladly "discuss" the topic in private, should anyone be incline. Lost Content, help find it a home! |
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Malkin Manager |
I'm still holding out hope that the Mall-only breeds and the ex-Mall breeds will wind up bundled in the C4 Collectors' Edition - it'd be a simple enough thing for them to do, and it would make the Collectors' Edition more complete. My TCR Norns |
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FlareChan |
Aww... that's disappointing news... I never got any of the breed packs the first time I played this game, and now that I have my own job and income, I definitely wanted to buy them and try them out, along with the agents they came with. I'm really happy to find out that a lot of the other breeds released that were previously buy-only can still be acquired, but if anyone has the packs and wouldn't mind talking to me in PM I'd love to hear from you! <3 Edit: Thank you to those who helped me out! |
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AvatarOfShibby |
Could with information on the above posts shoot me a message please? |
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 Spykkie |
*scratch message* So I was going to agree with "I hope they'll be in c4 release" (which i still do hope happens) then I thought I'd check the gog.com forums- and found this interesting piece of information: "The Creature Labs site is actually not broken: Gameware moved over from a .co.uk domain to a .com domain, but failed to update most of the links. All of the downloads should work, provided you've fixed the links." Sounds like something that could easily happen, considering the old site was mostly out of use. The link provided was: http://www.gamewaredevelopment.com/downloads/ "Note that these are official free downloads from the official site: The links go directly to the Gameware Development/Creature Labs site." That seems to be the site's real storage space, (can anyone confirm me on that?) it's been a while since i touched web scripting, but the address seems right and 'directory' sent me straight to the official site's front page. ![[ngrin]](/images/smilies/emot_grin.gif "[ngrin]") Twitt Stuff Insta Arts |
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Malkin Manager |
A while ago, Gameware released some breeds for free. They were hosted on the 'free downloads' section of the Creatures Labs site. When the Gameware Europe section was redesigned last July, the Creatures Labs site broke a bit, so we've been resorting to using the http://www.gamewaredevelopment.com/downloads/ link. I know that it doesn't feel legitimate to be using the directory in that manner, but all of the downloads on that page are managed by Gameware, and are official. Clear as mud? ![[nwink]](/images/smilies/emot_wink.gif "[nwink]") My TCR Norns |
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Ettina |
"If you'd read Laura's post you'd see that they aren't "ticked off" over it at all? They just don't want people to share them publicly, which frankly I find totally reasonable." How is it reasonable? Either way, they're not making any money off of it. All this does is prevent some people getting the breeds, people who would be willing to buy them if they were available. It just seems petty and pointless. By the way, I don't care if anyone steals my ideas for their own work, as long as you don't try to stop me from making my own stuff. Many ideas I mention are things I don't have the time or skill to actually do. |
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Spykkie |
Ettina wrote: If it helps you understand, try to replace the word 'reasonable' with the word 'legal'. :/ They have the right as the holders of the creatures franchise rights and producers of the products here addressed as "mall breeds", to not want said product to be pirated, sold or illegally distributed by third parties with out their consent. It may not make sense from the player's perspective, seeing has the company is not making or losing money from it either way; but it is legally their right as copyright holders to not want their products to be 'illegally' redistributed. Now, if they gave us permission, it would no longer be 'illegal' redistribution; but until then, it's not technically legal to pass them around since we do not have permission. It's like stealing a cookie from the cookie jar as opposed to asking permission to take one first. The act is the same: Taking one cookie from the jar. The difference is: it's not stealing when you have permission to do it. Personally, I hope they either give us the OK to share them soon, or re-release/include them all in the C4 bundle when it comes out. Twitt Stuff Insta Arts |
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Ettina |
"If it helps you understand, try to replace the word 'reasonable' with the word 'legal'." Ah, that makes sense. 'Reasonable' and 'legal' often don't line up. By the way, I don't care if anyone steals my ideas for their own work, as long as you don't try to stop me from making my own stuff. Many ideas I mention are things I don't have the time or skill to actually do. |
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 Andrettin |
spykkie wrote: Ettina wrote: If it helps you understand, try to replace the word 'reasonable' with the word 'legal'. :/ They have the right as the holders of the creatures franchise rights and producers of the products here addressed as "mall breeds", to not want said product to be pirated, sold or illegally distributed by third parties with out their consent. I don't think anyone is disputing their rights; we are only commenting on how reasonable their use of such rights have been. Personally, I find the non-inclusion of the mall breeds in the GOG version incomprehensible, from a rational point of view. It would allow them to promote the product in a stronger manner, and as such enhance the profits derived from those sales. The only reason I can think of for them not including it there is sloppiness, unfortunately. |
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Spykkie |
Ettina seemed confused so I tried to explain. I tend to ramble though... ![[nsad]](/images/smilies/emot_sad.gif "[nsad]") I agree about the Gog.com release. Only reasons I can think of as to why they didn't include everything was that either: 1. They were already looking into making C4 and have been planning to re-release them along or through C4. or 2.Some of the rights on those breeds belonged to someone else (in total or in part) and they could not sell them through the gog.com release from fear of legal actions from that/those person/people. Those two things would make their decision make sense. ...still a bummer, but makes sense on a business stand point. Twitt Stuff Insta Arts |
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Andrettin |
Sorry, I hadn't realized that Ettina was confused  I thought about those possibilities, but if 2. is true then why would they have said that it is ok to share them privately? 1. Is more probable I think, and I hope it would be that, as at least then people would have a legal chance to get their hands on the breed packs. |
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Spykkie |
Yeah, I'm really hoping they'll be bundled with C4! ![[heart]](/images/smilies/heart.gif "[heart]") Twitt Stuff Insta Arts |
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 Caves Dweller Rascii Administrator |
Is still possible to contact the owners of the breed packs (CL)? Maybe if someone specifically asked at this point if we could start publicly distributing them, they would give permission since more time has passed. I think after a while people stop caring about things. But obviously we would need their official permission first. I just think they wouldn't spontaneously contact the CC and notify us that they don't care anymore; we would have to contact them first to elicit a response. - Rascii |
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Senior Wrangler Nutter |
They've certainly done that with the "breed pack" for C1 (i.e. the Life Kit) - Rons and Forests were originally purchase-only. So the precedent is there, and C3 is getting pretty old in game terms now. |
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Jessica |
I've tried contacting a few different sources regarding this. I also know that Scal and Sophie from Fishing Cactus have a contact who might be able to help... I've asked about the Mall Breeds multiple times, so hopefully we'll hear something eventually. I wish Gameware/Creature Labs would at least allow them to be shared: I still don't understand how fair that is, considering how there isn't a way to legally obtain them anymore. Guess it's another waiting game! |
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Spykkie |
*sits and waits* Twitt Stuff Insta Arts |
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 Don |
You will unfortunately have to wait for the Creatures 4 Collector's Edition. I certainly wouldn't advise anyone to try to use pirate torrents in the mean time, due to the risk of trojan viruses more than the copyright issues. I think that's all that can be added to the topic for now. Don AmberCreatures  |
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