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Help Forum More Compare Gene Questions!    Minx      6/17/2012 Anyone up for the exciting challenge of helping me figure out exactly what the heck I am doing? Please copy/past the following link if you think you may know a bit about Gene Compare. It looks all messy and weird when I try to post it straight to the forum, so the link is simply to a document that explains my current questions of the universe. I am not tweaking any genes at this time--yeah, I don't trust myself enough for that. Right now, I'm selectively breeding using both nature and nurture at an interchanging rate. I am using Gene Compare and Genetics Lab simply to understand the changes in my norns, so I'm really interested in every little thing they both have to say. My questions may seem weird, and maybe even anal-retentive (I'm kind of that way all of the time, though, even in my responses, hehe), but they are important to me. Thanks, guys! Gene Compare Questions I want to create a C3 breed someday.. Formally defectiveminx.   Malkin Manager     6/17/2012 Question the first: This gene is again in the Painly drive overwhelmsion organ. When the norn is in pain, it looks like he won't be able to stow away his crowdedness to deal with it later. This might not be such a bad thing, as he will be in pain and crowded... both things which encourage getting away from others. How does he act when he's around others and there's a slapfest going on? Questions 2 and 7 are the variant number. The official documentation says that they don't do anything in C3. Question 3 - this gene, in the original, lets prostaglandin heal the skin cooling function organ. This has been disrupted, and I'm not too sure what the effects will be - just be careful with this norn around the antigens that attack the skin cooling function. Question 5 - I have no idea. Question 6 - instead of red, blue and green, your norn is being coloured... octarine, or something. The colour has mutated to something outside the spectrum allowed by the game, so it will likely be less blue. My TCR Norns   Minx   6/17/2012 So far, he just seems to feel crowded extremely easily. I put a monitor doc from DS on him, and when his crowdedness is only one or two bars up (still in the green), he expresses over and over that he is crowded. It also seems like it takes awhile for him to calm down when he leaves the situation. He runs backward and looks quite annoyed. I don't know if this has to do with that gene, though, as he doesn't appear to be in pain or around in a slapfest. So rather than his crowdedness going into some unknown void, he just holds onto it? Interesting. It's a shame that it won't even let me look at the mutated pigment in the Genetics Lab to possibly change it, as it crashes whenever I click on it. Is there a work-around to this? Thanks for the input! EDIT: I'm also quite relieved to know that those numbers are simply variants, so I can just gloss over them for now on. Sometimes there is a "1" instead of "0" in front of the "Intensity" value of pigments. Would this also be a variant? I want to create a C3 breed someday.. Formally defectiveminx.   Malkin Manager     6/17/2012 Does he have any other mutations related to crowdedness? If you upload the pigmented genome to liveGMS, liveGMS will fix the genome automatically. My TCR Norns   Minx   6/17/2012 I looked all over the place and couldn't find any other crowded mutations. It was like four in the morning, though, so I may need to look again. Here's something odd I just came upon: 225 Different in file 1 161 0 Emb B 128 0 Organ# = 12, Creature, Reproductive, Chance of mutation, chem=Stress, thresh=63, nom=0, gain=38, features=Analogue (0) 225 Different in file 2 161 0 Emb B 128 0 Organ# = 12, Creature, Reproductive, Chance of mutation, chem=Stress, thresh=70, nom=0, gain=38, features=Analogue (0) 226 Different in file 1 162 0 Emb B 128 0 Organ# = 12, Creature, Reproductive, Degree of mutation, chem=Stress, thresh=64, nom=0, gain=54, features=Analogue (0) 226 Different in file 2 162 0 Emb B 128 0 Organ# = 12, Creature, Reproductive, Degree of mutation, chem=Stress, thresh=70, nom=0, gain=54, features=Analogue (0) They are within the gonad organ (I am looking at two females right now, but I assume this organ still operates because it exists? Maybe not)--one relates to "chance of mutation" and the other "degree". The threshold was quite different, so I looked them up in the genetics lab, and the two corresponding genes were respectively labelled "ovulate" and "receptive to sperm," saying absolutely nothing about mutations. Is the Gene Compare correct or the Genetics Lab? Because, well, those two things are both important but a quite different. I want to create a C3 breed someday.. Formally defectiveminx.   Malkin Manager     6/17/2012 Those genes operate because they are marked B for Both genders. If a norn suffers a great deal of Stress during its life, or is exposed to heavy metals, its offspring mutate more than a norn who has been stress-free or hasn't hung around the C2(toDS?...) volcano all its life. Reproduction, the Genes has this to say about the gonad: "Organ : GONAD Present and expressed in both genders This organ is expressed in both male and female creatures and holds the genes responsible for creating fertility cycles and regulating sex drive. This organ is damaged by Antigens 2 and 3, and also suffers damage from radiation. Several genes in here also regulate the degree of mutation that will be applied to the genome of any offspring during conception." While I've just given the impression that this is a cumulative thing, I'm not sure if it's indeed cumulative or if the mutation chance and degree just happens at the time of conception. My TCR Norns   Minx   6/18/2012 Okay, I see; however, I still don't understand why Genetic Lab doesn't recognize those genes in the same way. When I pull up genes 225 or 226 within the exact same norn of which I copy/pasted that information, it says nothing about chance of mutation. In the drop-down box from "ovulate" and "receptive to sperm", I can see the mutation chance options, but they are not initially highlighted. I just wondered if this is a normal thing, and if I should follow what the Gene Compare says or the Genetic Lab. I may not be explaining myself, but there just seems to be a discrepancy between the two pieces of information about the same genes within the same norn. I want to create a C3 breed someday.. Formally defectiveminx.

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