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sam999

sam999


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  4/18/2012

After playing around with the Magic Words cos files and a few of their many upgrades I found a problem.

I don't know most of the commands to operate them. Does anyone have a list of Magic Word commands?

 
RisenAngel
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  4/18/2012

If you type "help," you'll get a list of the commands you currently have installed.

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Malkin

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  4/18/2012

Thanks, I've updated the Creatures Wiki page with more information on the 'help' function. :)

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Amaikokonut

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  4/18/2012

Malkin is awesome, and should feel awesome.

But yeah, typing "help" will basically enum all your magic words agents, take the text from the "magic_word_help_#" variables, and string them all together in a window for your viewing pleasure.

As a side note though, that also means if you have injected a magic words agent multiple times, its help text will show up multiple times... something I hope to fix in a future version.


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sam999

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  4/19/2012

Thanks Malkin. That was really helpful, or as Amaikokonut put it "awesome."

Do you mind if I update the Cwiki page with whatever word combinations I figure out?

 
Amaikokonut

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  4/19/2012

I'm not sure you quite understand.

There is no need for a list of words/phrases to be posted, because the list is available in-game. There should be no "figuring out" involved.

If you type "help" in the hand speech bubble, without the quotes, like you would any other magic words command, a list of commands will pop up.

If you are typing "help" and no window appears though, let me know.

Edit: It should look like this.


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Geek2Nurse

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  4/20/2012

I've had mixed luck getting help files for 3rd party agents to show up in the game. Manually moving catalog files has helped with some, but not all. I've figured out how to decompile agents to find the help text, but that's a lot to expect of the average player, and even that is fraught with peril, since many of the few developers' utilities available either won't work or crash my virtual Windoze setup when I try to use them, so a lot of times I end up abandoning an agent instead of finding out how to use it so I can see what it does.

What I'm trying to say is, even though help is built in, redundancy isn't a bad idea. It would be really helpful to have agent help info in the Wiki, for those of us playing on difficult/finnicky patchwork systems. It would let us see whether an agent might actually be helpful to install, as well as how to use it once we do. :)


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Horstj

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  4/20/2012

What agents are those you need the helpfiles for? shall I decompile them for you and send you the files?
 
Malkin

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  4/20/2012

I am not Amaikokonut, but the magic words modules each specify their help commands in the cos file directly, not in a catalogue file. If the core is installed correctly, the rest of it should work.

I don't see why the Creatures Wiki page could not be used to list commands, but using the provided help will help you remember which modules you have installed in which worlds.


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Geek2Nurse

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  4/20/2012

Thanks, Horstj! I've figured out how to do it now, so I can do it myself. Sometimes it just doesn't feel worth it, for an agent that I'm not even sure what it does, though. ;) I'm still in the learning/exploring phase, just seeing what's out there.

Malkin, I was speaking more in general terms about agent help files; you're right that magic words is a little different.

I do have a problem with MW help, though. I've been blaming it on my glitchy setup, but I suppose it could be a bug, so maybe I should have said something before...

What happens is that the second page of the help file displays transparently over the top of the first page (which stays on the screen), so I can only actually read the first page of help. Since I apparently inadvertently injected the "set tag" command twice (it appears twice on the first page), that's the only command I get help for.


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