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Help Forum Butterfly Norns with GD arms    Malkin    Manager     3/27/2012 Since installing the Golden Desert Norns, I find that my Butterfly Norns' arms and tails are those of the GD norns. I have tried redownloading the butterfly norn agent from Amanora's site and reinstalling it, but no dice as of yet. Does anyone have any ideas? My TCR Norns   Yamishi   3/27/2012 That's odd, if it had been the whole body (head, body, arms, legs and tail) that was of the Golden Desert norns, I would say they took the Butterfly's breed slot, but I can't say I've heard about this before. This is in Creatures 2, right?   Jessi   3/27/2012 I assume this is a problem in Creatures 3, as Amanora seems to only have the Butterfly Norns for DS/C3. (I think the C2 version of the Butterfly Norn were actually intended to use Golden Desert sprites, though they weren't supposed to have tails. If for C3, may I ask where you downloaded the Golden Desert Norn agent from? I know the breed was being worked on a while ago, but it was in beta then and conflicted with some other breeds. The sprite files for the Desert Norns may be overriding the Butterfly Norns, if the files share the same name. But if you were installing the sprite files manually, you probably would have noticed that. I don't know if the Desert Norn breed self-extracts the files, however, as I have been unable to find the download for C3/DS. If it does self-extract like the Butterfly breed, and you're not sure what the sprites are called, Amanora has a tail-less version of the Butterfly Norn that you can download. If you install those sprites, and if it changes the Desert Norn's sprites in-game as well, then you will know there is a conflict. ~ Jessi's Cobs ~~ Creatures Documentations ~   Norngirl     3/27/2012 I think it's the one Razgriz put up for download here on Creatures Caves.. http://creaturescaves.com/cobs.php?game=C3DS&type=Misc I do know it could not conflict with the C3-D butterfly norns breed slot...I used to test them before for him,but that was a long time ago... I should chek what breed slot they use,but I do know it's not the butterfly one. All that comes to mind is that Amanora's butterfly comes in 2 versions - one tailess and one with no tails..yet that dosn't solve the arm prob hmm... I know C3-DS dosn't allways behave with installing breeds propely - specialy not agent installoing ones *I like manual versions - have more control over what I install*   Prodigal Sock Ghosthande     3/27/2012 Yeah, I have both Butterfly Norns and GDN's in C3/DS and don't have any problems. Sounds like either a Mac thing or a C2 thing?   Jessi   3/27/2012 Thank you Norngirl I just installed the Golden Desert Norns as well, and am not experiencing any conflict between the new norns and my old butterfly norns. All sprites for both norn breeds are displaying correctly. Are they first generation butterfly norns that you are having problems with, and is it every single one? Are the butterfly norns the only breed that is being affected? ~ Jessi's Cobs ~~ Creatures Documentations ~   Malkin Manager     3/27/2012 The game I am playing is C3/DS. My current theory is that the sprites for the Butterfly arms and tails were somehow not installed when I hatched my butterflies, and so they defaulted to the next available images in a geat slot - the golden desert limbs. It is every single butterfly norn, and they are first generation. After installing the Bubble Norns, I have had a baby born with a Bubble Norn tail, and two born with bubble norn arms and tails which could not have had any Bubble Norn ancestry. Having these very similar appearance mutations crop up in second generation norns doesn't seem likely by chance. My TCR Norns

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