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3/24/2011 | |
How do?
My problem is, my C1 norns will often learn perfectly how to eat within the first few seconds of being born. You don't even have to coax them, they just do. However, after leaving them alone for an hour, I come back to find a starving norn, and every time I tell said norn to push food it either doesn't seem to know what food is, or picks up the food and does a strange little dance with it. This goes on for about 5 minutes before it finally just eats, but it's torture.
I seem to be having a stable norn right now, but I'm worried. Most of the time the norns that forget to eat tend to be in large packs, as if they're being distracted by one another, but even when I finally get one norn on their own they take awhile.
I've tried using the reward foods and that hasn't worked at all.
My theory is that the norns aren't sleeping enough, so that their learning isn't being solidified, but I'd like to hear other points of views. I'm sure this is a rather big problem in the C1 game that others have somehow managed to conquer, so please. tell me how.
Do not upset the ugly worm, lest it be a dragon in disguise. (>oo)>
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Tarlia
 
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3/24/2011 | |
I never really found a "solution" to this - C1 norns are stubborn and don't have the hyper-eating instincts of C3 norns (but are still easier to deal with than C2 norns) - but I think you at least have to keep reinforcing a good eating pattern. Give each norn attention regularly while they're growing up, offering them food (try herbs and drinks, too), telling them to eat (push) it, rewarding them when they do so, punishing them only if they refuse to listen to you after several attempts. Punishing them too much confuses them a lot and just makes things worse. And yeah, sleep helps, I find they're easier to deal with after they've had a good nap. Exhausted norns are very hard to deal with. Big groups of norns tend to cause bad behaviour. I honestly think all the random slapping they do to each other confuses them as well, sometimes making them fearful of everything. So yeah, keep separating them and make sure they sleep and eat, otherwise the good behaviour they learned as infants will be lost. C1 norns generally can't really be left alone for very long.
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ArchDragon

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4/1/2011 | |
I'm with Tarlia on this one. I've been reading 'Creation: Life and how to make it' by our beloved Steve Grand, and one of the things I learned from that is that Norns forget things over time.
This is implemented so that a Norn wont have a bad experience early in life (say you accidently slap them after eating) and never try it again. After a while of not doing an action they forget it was bad and try it again.
Therefore if Norns go for a long time without eating it's likely they'll have forgotten that it's a good idea. Try and give each Norn a little time to avoid this. I've recently reconditioned a bad eater to become good again, so it's definitely possible, although it takes some work. |
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