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Jamie

Jamie
United Kingdom  


  6/5/2008

There have been quite a few books and tv shows that have had the concent of immortality by uploading yuor conscious into a new body or such before death. If the technology was available, would you? Would it really be you, or just a copy of you? Basically, what do you think of the whole idea?

-Jamie
 
christine

christine



  6/5/2008

hm, that's pretty philosophical. i don't know. i think that immortality would almost invalidate life. i don't see the appeal of living as a human for the rest of eternity. the mind is so mysterious, and consciousness so intangible, that i'm not entirely sure that you could just transplant that infinitely fragile and ineffable thing that makes each of us individual and conscious beings anyway.

in short, no. death is the last great adventure, and makes every moment more precious.


I wanna be your lover,
Lipstick my name across your mirror.
Blood red with flaked gunshot glitter

 
Draconorn

Draconorn



  6/6/2008

No, I think one lifetime is enough DX Man, I seriously don't get along with people.
 
Squishy-Fudge

Squishy-Fudge



  6/6/2008


 
Malkin

Malkin

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  6/6/2008

I wouldn't be willing to try it until I was sure that post-upload me would have similar kinds of rights to the fully human me. Although I have heard people who use pacemakers and have artificial limbs being called cyborgs (by futurists with a barrow to push). In that case, people with false teeth or glasses, or even iPods and mobile phones could be included as having 'wearable' technology.

My TCR Norns
 
Squishy-Fudge

Squishy-Fudge



  6/6/2008

i wear glasses 8D
 
Jacob

Jacob



  6/6/2008

Life is life.
Death is death.
No running from it, so face it with a smile.


Not really active around these parts anymore.
 
Squishy-Fudge

Squishy-Fudge



  6/7/2008



xD

that pic is awesome.

 
Dreamnorn

Dreamnorn



  6/7/2008

Nikizai: Pic is now repetitive. BAN&HAMMER!

*whack*

As for the original topic... I'm uncertain. I'll accept whatever life throws at me, and possibly whatever death throws at me. Though I'm scared, I live each moment like it's my last day on Earth-- you know, lounging about, playing Strangeo games. ;)



 
Squishy-Fudge

Squishy-Fudge



  6/7/2008

i terrified that my room is haunted or there are people hiding in my room

my bedroom is big, so there's plenty of places for people to hide


*looks behind her*

 
Wup

Wup



  6/7/2008

Immortality... everyone wants to live forever. Nobody wants to die, and leave what they've accomplished, andd nobody wants to leave their families.

However, if everyone lived forever... what good would that do anything? If you think that if you were given the chance, you would do it, then you haven't thought it through. We were only meant to live to around 50 years. As we become more advanced, our life expectancy goes up.

So does our stupidity.

If everyone were given the chance to never die, everyone would take it, no doubt. But eventually everything has to die. What is the point of living if it is no matter if we die, we can just have our conciousness put into a new body? Life would have no value.

So my answer is definately not. One lifetime is enough for me.


ps. I haven't played Monster Raannnrrrnnchhdoggy
 
Squishy-Fudge

Squishy-Fudge



  6/8/2008

i wouldn't take it. unless i had something really important to do. like watch every single top gear episode, or drive the latest car.
 
Wup

Wup



  6/8/2008

Cars, cars, cars. Is that all you thnk about anymore?

ps. I haven't played Monster Raannnrrrnnchhdoggy
 
Squishy-Fudge

Squishy-Fudge



  6/8/2008

yes.
 
Malkin

Malkin

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  6/8/2008

How many of us can say that we seize the day, though? Surely that's an important consideration, when considering our future deaths.

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Laura
Tea Queen

Laura


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  6/8/2008

Seize the day... I believe I seize the day in the sense that I'm doing everything in life that I want to, and I'm content about it.
 
Squishy-Fudge

Squishy-Fudge



  6/8/2008

i'll be happy if i find out my crush likes me. 8D

then i would be happy for the rest of my LIFE 8DDDD


*shot for being weird*

 
Wup

Wup



  6/8/2008

Things have been looking up for me, lately. By the way my crush is acting, he's had a crush on me since we met and can't believe I like him back. Which is probably true.

I hope things work out in your favor, Leanne. :]


ps. I haven't played Monster Raannnrrrnnchhdoggy
 
Squishy-Fudge

Squishy-Fudge



  6/9/2008

*hugs ES*

:3

well, there's an upside. tomorrow i'm going on the trip thing to a thing because i did well in science (i got joined to top with you-know-who <3)

so

*shrugs*


(we should probably make a seperate thread for this, shouldn't we?)

 
Laura
Tea Queen

Laura


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  6/9/2008

Nikizai wrote:
(we should probably make a seperate thread for this, shouldn't we?)

Yeah. ;)

Back on topic... Immortality.

 
Squishy-Fudge

Squishy-Fudge



  6/9/2008

mmkay :P

right.... immortality.


uh. if you WERE immortal, what would happen when/if the universe imploded? or does immortality just refer to age and not other factors?



 
Wup

Wup



  6/9/2008

I assume not. Unless you were a power-hungry idiot like Pokey and got some armor or something, so it the world DID implode you'd be there alone forever.

ps. I haven't played Monster Raannnrrrnnchhdoggy
 
Officer-1BDI

Officer-1BDI


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  6/9/2008

Death Becomes Her killed any enthusiasm I might have had for immortality when I was a little girl. :P

I'm scared of hitting my 60s, nevermind immortality. And I don't mean that as an offense to the 60+ crowd, because I know growing old =/= in itself isn't a bad thing; it's just that I have an almost irrational fear of some of the debilitating diseases associated with older age, like Alzheimer's. Immortality's a moot point if you're not even aware enough to enjoy it.


You have to be honest with yourself when you are writing. If that leads to somewhere unexpected then perhaps you really needed to go there.
-- Jim Adkins

 
Jacob

Jacob



  6/11/2008

I don't wanna die, but I'm going to, so hell, gonna face it with a smile. What I don't want is to become dependant on people for survival.

Not really active around these parts anymore.
 
Squishy-Fudge

Squishy-Fudge



  6/11/2008

Cabbage.

yeah, we're all gonna die eventually. how long that takes is pretty much genetical but yeah.

though there was this one guy who lives for 160-200 years old. then he moved to london and within a year, he died.

LULZ POLLUTION

poor guy.

 
Jacob

Jacob



  6/11/2008

^ Incorrect. Oldest person ever was a 120 - 130 year old woman Unless I am mistaken?

Not really active around these parts anymore.
 
Squishy-Fudge

Squishy-Fudge



  6/11/2008

i dunno. but i have a big book of pointless facts and it says this guy lived for a loooong time but then he moved to london and the change in food killed him.
 
Dreamnorn

Dreamnorn



  6/12/2008

Nikizai wrote:
this guy lived for a loooong time but then he moved to london and the change in food killed him.

...What the heck? o_o The Wikipedia article stated otherwise:

Wikipedia wrote:
The longest unambiguously documented lifespan is that of Jeanne Calment of France (1875–1997), who was aged 122 years and 164 days.

The article also states she met Vincent Van Gogh at age 14. :o Wow.



 
Squishy-Fudge

Squishy-Fudge



  6/12/2008

wiki is edited by people.


 
angel51431

angel51431


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  6/12/2008

actually wiki HAS to be backed up by research and official documents or they scrap the edits. It is a lot more legitimate than you think, even with people editing.

And yes, as far as i know, a french woman lived to be 125. She claimed that the only wrinkle she had was "the sits on".


Yes, I'm the forum [devil]... Any questions?

Rascii: You make my life difficult, angel.

 
Squishy-Fudge

Squishy-Fudge



  6/13/2008

what's the sits on?
 
LuciaInFurs

LuciaInFurs


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  6/13/2008

But how much more of a life would we be encouraged to lead without the fear of death? Or at least, the fear of an end? All those things you never start or never try because you have no hope of finishing.

Presumably even if we were able to artificially continue our lives, we would still have some found of suicide. Whether by destroying our organic forms or unplugging and machine or simply willing ourselves to no longer be concious. We could choose our own ends, when we are content to continue, when we are finished, when we have exhausted our lives and can willingly depart.

BUT THEN, even with no natural end in sight and the comforts of everlasting health, would anyone choose to? Hopelessness and depression, surely, would cease if we had all the time in the world. And of course, we could never willingly come to any kind of end. With all the time in the world in an ever changing world would we not be continuously answering to some kind of calling? We can never be finished.

And if our immortality is not a volunteery state, but something we are unable to control, would anyone choose immortality? Possibly the fear of the everlasting overpowers our fear of the finite.

Is it how we've been brought up? There are so many morals. Hundreds and thousands of years worth of "Be careful what you wish for", from Greek and Norse mythology, lor' knows how much further back these warnings go. Immortality for the Gods, and for men (even the heros) mortality. Those who challenge this are almost always punished, or torture by their natureal ways.
So why we do we even have such a warning so deeply embedded in our culture. I'd ponder something mystical surround that, if I were the type. More likely, we have more common sense then we'd give even ourselves credit for.

Uhmm...
No idea really. I tried to give an opinion but just ended up thinking out loud... with my keyboard.


The Electric Angels (my blog)
http://luciainfurs.wordpress.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~
"Don't you know there ain't no devil,
it's just god when he's drunk"



 
Squishy-Fudge

Squishy-Fudge



  6/15/2008

*eyes set on fire from all the writing*

it would be alright if EVERYONE was immortal (provided they couldn't have...you know.... bedroom fun...) because all your friends and family wouldn't die before you

but if you were the only one, it would suck. all your friends and family would die etc etc

 
Malkin

Malkin

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  6/15/2008

I'm pretty sure I half-remember a myth - a goddess fell in love with a mortal and asked her father Zeus to make him immortal. Zeus granted his daughter's wish and made her lover immortal. However, he did not also grant eternal youth to the man, and so with every year that passed, the man shrunk a little. Eventually he was smaller than a speck of dust, and his voice could not be heard over the rustle of a skirt. Eventually the goddess lost him entirely, he was so small. Can anyone else remember that myth better?

My TCR Norns
 
Dreamnorn

Dreamnorn



  6/16/2008

I remember it! But you basically have it locked down. In the version I read, he became a cricket.

If we are to search for eternal life, shouldn't eternal youth be a good idea to go along with it? *is inquisitive*



 
LuciaInFurs

LuciaInFurs


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  6/16/2008

To remain eternally naive and stubborn? It'll be a laugh for the immortal, I'm sure, but lord help anyone who has to put up with them. Physically, I suppose that would come with being immortal, but to remained mentally youthful would be more of a curse than loved ones dying. imagine hundreds of thousands of years, just being the exact same person. At least alongside love lost, there is love gained.

The Electric Angels (my blog)
http://luciainfurs.wordpress.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~
"Don't you know there ain't no devil,
it's just god when he's drunk"



 

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