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Paradox Norns   C3DS   TheSecond | 5/7/2013  log in to like post  2

typeGenetics Only
authorMarcus Kurzbach
updated3/10/2014
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PLEASE NOTE: The Paradox Norns genetics are special, in that they are a toxic breed which can reproduce with any other breed with a high chance of the child being able to survive. However, there is a trade off. If the Paradox Norns should become infected with certain chemicals, they become little more than zombies; unable to breed, no drives and immortal, unless they suffer enough injury to kill them.

The Paradox Norns are just that: A paradox. They can survive in either toxic or 'clean' environments. Also, when breeding with other Norn breeds, the resulting offspring will be either 100% Paradox, or 100% other, unlike standard Toxic Norns which produce offspring that may contain conflicting genes. An exception would be if a Paradox Norn breeds with a Toxic Norn, in which case the offspring may be either 100% Toxic, 100% Paradox, or a mix of Toxic and Paradox.

They use one of the following sprite sets from the following breeds, which must be installed to display properly*:

Bengal Norn
Bruin Norn
ChiChi Norn
Civet Norn
Dream Norn
Fimbul Norn
Gargoyle Norn (C3/DS)
Magma Norn
Primavera Norn
Yellowstone Norn

They are also distinguished by the constant presence of a Banshee Grendel tail, if this breed is installed. If not, they have a standard C3 Grendel tail.

*Note: It is not required to have all of the listed sprits sets installed. The Paradox Norns have several different genomes, each genome uses a different sprite set from the list.
 
 
Zurinsel13 | 6/17/2018  log in to like post

The link to the Paradox norns is sadly down :(
 
Malkin | 5/10/2013  log in to like post

Thanks! :D
 
TheSecond | 5/10/2013  log in to like post  2

The main culprits are ATP Decoupler, which metabolizes into ATP, Geddonase, which Metabolizes into Fat, Glycotoxin, which metabolizes into Protein, Fat, Starch, and negates Wounded, and Antigens 1-7, which metabolize into so many things it's dizzying.
 
Feddlefew | 5/10/2013  log in to like post  2

I think it's antigens 4, 5, and 6 (Kills of drives and mitochondrial functions, 5 also makes them immune to injury) and ATP Dcp (Provides them with unlimited ATP and energy forever.)

This is the worst case scenario, because it would leave them able to breed. Fortunately I think the probability of them encountering all of these and none of the toxins that kill the reproductive organs is pretty low.
 
Malkin | 5/10/2013  log in to like post

Which chemicals make the Paradox Norns into zombies?
 
TheSecond | 5/7/2013  log in to like post

Tested again, norn lived for (tilde)60 seconds before keeling over. ATP production is greatly reduced, but does not zero out as it would in a non-toxic breed. (Tested it on a Magma, instant death from destruction of ATP as you would expect.

Something is wonky. Heading for Help.
 
Feddlefew | 5/7/2013  log in to like post

Hmm... According to the wiki page, ATP Dcp should be metabolized into helpful chemicals.

I think this deserves a help topic.
 
Feddlefew | 5/7/2013  log in to like post

ATP decoupler has a couple other effects I stumbled on during CFG testing that we don't normally get to see before the norn dies. Like cyanide it seems to turn off ATP production as long as its in the norn's system.
 
TheSecond | 5/7/2013  log in to like post

ATP Decoupler is the winner. Which is odd - On the graph, when ATP decoupler is injected, energy skyrockets and ATP production nosedives - but does not zero out. In fact, it takes a couple of minutes after the injection for it to kill them.
 
TheSecond | 5/7/2013  log in to like post

thanks for the tutorial.

Right now I'm trying to narrow down what's killing them. It's definitely a poison -- but it's not cyanide. Good guess though. I think right now it's a tie between Hist A, Hist B, Co, and ATP Decoupler.

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