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My stupid metaroom ideas.   
Gumbo

Gumbo
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  8/31/2009

I have a few stupid metarom ideas that ill just leave here if anyones interested.

1. A larger, large room, maybe a duplicate of a smaller room, but the point is that everything is bigger and therefore more detailed. Im thinking on the scale of the grazers=adult norn size.

2. A medium-sized room full of pairs of symbiotic critters and plants. Maybe a machine where you can combine two critters or plants, i.e. carrot+apple= fat orange-red carrot. The machine would only work with the critters and plants that come with the room, and maybe official critters and plants. Fragile ecosystem?

Comment, ridicule, and critique as you see fit. I may post rough setcked drafts of each metaroom once I get acess to a scanner.



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xan

xan



  8/31/2009

1. well if you get a hold of someone who can actually do the art for this let me know

2. sounds cool go code it

 
Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  8/31/2009

I like your second idea, with the splicable critters/plants. I actually thought of something similar a long time ago. I agree, it would be neat to see something like that.


 
Laura
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Laura

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  9/1/2009

You could have so much fun with the second metaroom idea, I'd like to see it happen. :)

In your idea - are you thinking that you would only be able to splice critter + critter, or plant + plant, or would you be able to splice critter + plant as well? I'm just imagining splicing a critter with a carrot and having the critter turn bright orange. :P

 
Norngirl

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  9/1/2009

the first remind me a bit of mario
*places the everything was bigger,the enemies,the objects etc XD *

but yes,i also think number 2 sound cool,i realy hope this is a thing that won't be canceled once started ,since it does sound neat ^^

it remind me of c2,when i first got it and i saw the intro,i didn't have had high hopes that creatures and critters would be splice-able togheter in-game but that was what come to my mind in the intro,and this one remind me a bit of it,except its a critter with critter (or plant to plant (?) ) er.. ya know splice XD

as for laura: it would be more interessting if the carrot x critter would be some fusuion of both rather then a recolor
(was thinking the recolor objects is allways there in ds/c3 ) ;P

well hopefully we might hear some more detailed stuff about this? X3

 
Gumbo

Gumbo



  9/1/2009

@laura: Hopefully it would be critter-critter, plant-plant, and critter-plant, but as norngirl said, not just a recolor, the critter's tail would begreen, its body organge, and it would have ridges on it, like a carrot. Also, say that the critter was large and the plant was small, the resulting splice would be medium.

maybe if youre doing critter-plant you could decide whether it would be a critter or a plant, in that the plant version would be a critter that grows undergruond, etc

I dont know :\

Should I make like 2nd generation critterplants? like carrot-grazer + aplle-goshhawk? Maybe after a certian generation they all start to look the same?

I dont know D:



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Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  9/1/2009

I think doing 2nd generation ones would be too much work... just think of how many combinations that would be. Unless they're like quirky cookies and only some combinations have valid results. That would be fun, trying to figure out which ones work.


 
Gumbo

Gumbo



  9/1/2009

Ghosthande, I see what you mean. Also, like quirky cookies, there could be combinations of three or more.


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Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  9/1/2009

Why do you not make it so that spliced critters/plants again, they simply result in each other? A while ago I played a bit DragonQuestMonsters for GBC and they had the same system.
It was about so:

Carrot + Crobster = Carrobster
Lemon + Stinger = Limger
Grazer + Clownfish = Hydrobeast
But Limger + Carrobster = also Hydrobeast

Not really a pretty system, but better as when everything results in "Invalid Species"...


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Gumbo

Gumbo



  9/1/2009

I dont really get it, Papriko, but let me clarify my idea: Limger+Carrobster= generic grey animal or generic grey plant. As in at a certian generation, they all start to look like eachother.


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Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  9/1/2009

No, there is a limited range of animals and plants you can get. When you mix those mixed creatures again, you get another one you could also create direct.
That above was only meant as example.
base1 + base2 = mix 1
base3 + base4 = mix2
base5 + base6 = mix3
but to not end up in hundreds of animal is
mix1 + mix2 = mix3 and not a new mix4.

Why do only so few people understand algebra? I think math is so easy! Simple Logic! Learn a few rules and you can apply them on almost everything...


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xan

xan



  9/1/2009

this has nothing to do with algebra man. what.

your suggestion makes no sense, that would be like a liger and a mule breeding and giving birth to a hybrid pheasant

 
Laura
Tea Queen

Laura

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  9/1/2009

Gumbosplat wrote:
Hopefully it would be critter-critter, plant-plant, and critter-plant, but as norngirl said, not just a recolor, the critter's tail would begreen, its body organge, and it would have ridges on it, like a carrot. Also, say that the critter was large and the plant was small, the resulting splice would be medium.

Oh yeah of course, I just envisioned this bright orange Norn when I thought of a Norn spliced with a carrot. Maybe it would have a green carrot top for a tail too? :P However they'd turn out, they'd look cool.

 
Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  9/1/2009

Except for animals... I see the pattern but it doesn't make much reasonable sense. If you splice a zebra and a lion, and a hippo and a swordfish, and splice those splices together, you will not end up with a cow. It would be funny, but kind of nonsensical.


 
Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  9/1/2009

okok, I'm quiet now. Was just an idea.

And since when was a deeper sense in Creatures? Look at the Teatime Plants!


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rainbowcat1

rainbowcat1



  9/1/2009

We who play creatures have always thought deeply...sort of.

Gumbosplat, both rooms sound awesome! I can't wait to see sketches!


"Everything you can imagine is real" ~Pablo Picasso



 
Gumbo

Gumbo



  9/2/2009

Anotheridea: Maybe having to use the splicer-thing to solve puzzles in order to use the metaroom properly? Such as treebranch+apple=lift button?

I PROMISE I'll post some sketches when I get my scanner.



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Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  9/2/2009

Or a critter/plant that does something, like a thunderbird that turns on an electrical device that was powered down before? I like that idea, there are all sorts of ways that idea could be used...

What would the reward be for getting through it, I wonder?



 
Gumbo

Gumbo



  9/2/2009

being able to use things.
If you get the lift buttons, you can use lifts.
I like your thunderbird idea, but where would you get electricity? maybe a bird and a ligtningbug...



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Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  9/2/2009

Or a catfish could work, since some [like the electric eel] generate electric current. A catfish would be useful as food for Norns, too.


 
Gumbo

Gumbo



  9/2/2009

but then the bird could be aquatic


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Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  9/2/2009

Says who? Maybe it just ends up being a thunderduck.


 
Amaikokonut

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  9/8/2009

I personally love the first idea! Seems like it would have a very.. "Honey, I shrunk the norns" feel to it :P Though it would likely be a ton of work, recreating something like the norn meso on a larger scale

[Naturing :: Nurturing]
 
Gumbo

Gumbo



  9/9/2009

maybe not the meso, maybe startiong out with a smaller room, like zaharo


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sam999

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  10/24/2009

The first idea is the best, I think the meso would be perfect for it.
 
Yamishi

Yamishi



  11/8/2009

Gumbo
 wrote:

A medium-sized room full of pairs of symbiotic critters and plants. Maybe a machine where you can combine two critters or plants, i.e. carrot+apple= fat orange-red carrot. The machine would only work with the critters and plants that come with the room, and maybe official critters and plants. Fragile ecosystem?

That sounds really awesome, mixing fruits and critters together to make new ones. And, as Laura said, it would be funny to make a bright orange critter, or maybe a red one. I think that's a good room idea :D

 
Gumbo

Gumbo



  11/15/2009

Another idea: a livng metaroom, possibly an escape pod, that grows its own food but you have to feed it yourself or all the life in it dies out . sort of a maintance thing


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Wiimeiser

Wiimeiser



  11/16/2009

I thought of a satellite ship that orbits the ark. Maybe that could be it?

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Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  11/16/2009

I had an idea... The Shee Ships, especially the Capillata, are living spaceships, right? I thought about a room which grows cancer-like from the DS ship. Very fertile ground, kind of a recycler that produces anything (e.g. as that burping thing from Garbage Dump), biologic doors that look a bit like heart valves, everywhere tentacles with different functions, multiple levels, the upper ones filled with air, the lowest one with water, etc etc etc...

Lets play plants! Photosynthesis... Photosynthesis... Photosynthesis...
 
Yamishi

Yamishi



  11/16/2009

Papriko, I'd want to get that room :D
 
EmergencyTowel

EmergencyTowel



  11/17/2009

So in other words... That room would be a ship tumor? awesome.

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Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  11/17/2009

Hmm, agentrock... In these words? Yes. As I said: the Shee have living technology, so it would fit to the theme.

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EmergencyTowel

EmergencyTowel



  11/17/2009

pure awesome in a jar.

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AquaShee

AquaShee



  12/6/2009

Plants and critters that can be spliced together isn't that hard. A lot of work, but not very hard.
Agents can exist out of multiple parts, like the buttons on a cheese vendor for example.
Critters usually don't have multiple parts, but it's not that hard to make them work that way. These parts could then act very similar to the way a Norn's bodyparts work, which means they would be interchangeable between each other.

You'd have to make a set of bodies, a set of legs, a set of heads and a set of tails, for example.
A zebra critter would then use only zebra parts, a pig would use only pig parts. Splice them together, and make a critter that uses a combination of zebra and pig parts

With some extra work you can even make this work between critters, birds and plants, only crossing over relevant parts. A carrot spliced with a pig would give you a pig with carrot leaves for hair or tail, or a carrot with a pig's tail on the end.


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Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  12/6/2009

That would be awesome.


 


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