Creatures Caves

Razgriz wrote:
"This means Windows 7 and Windows 8 users can choose not to download the updates or, if they have already been installed, they can be uninstalled and neither operating system will automatically reinstall them without user permission" So why exactly are you fear-mongering enough that your recommendation is for someone to switch to a very different OS instead of ignoring the Windows updater or taking steps to remove these specific updates?

SteamOS is a non-factor until it's out of beta and accompanied by whatever hardware they have lined up for it. Not to mention it remains to be seen whether people will adopt it.

So can I play games like The Saboteur and Saints Row 4 with ease and an experience about the same as if I were playing on Windows? Ie no nasty slowdowns or issues, etc. (Creatures on Linux is actually irrelevant to me because I don't really touch the games at all these days)

Edit: Another important consideration for people like myself that hasn't been mentioned is driver support. Those new driver releases near or on a large game's release are generally pretty important to having a smoother experience when playing.

What exactly is your issue here? The above sounds hostile. This whole post was to bring attention and inform people to this as a possibility because this is an issue for some people with windows 10. If I was to cause fear and panic, I might make something up. Any fear mongering, you feel on your end is your interpretation of what I said. Everything anyone says is subject to interpretation. If you feel I was fear mongering, I apologize. It was not my intent.

People are aware of windows 10 having these spying issues. I wanted to inform those parties that it may concern here that windows 7 and 8 might have updates to install on your computer. This is not confirmed. This is rumor. Rumor. The fact that you can uninstall them like you claim may also be rumor. The guy who wrote it says point blank that he has heard nothing back from Microsoft. I interperet what you quote as his best guess. I cannot confirm or deny it at this time. We will have to see. Based upon what he said on the first page, it sound like it ignores your current settings. Second page where your quote from has a different tone to it. I suppose he edited his article.

Linux is the only system that I know that does not have the spying issue. Yes, you use any Google or Facebook you will be subject to it. Facts are, Anrdroid, IOS, Apple, Chrome OS, and Now Microsoft with windows 10 all have it. It is a marketable product for companies. My guess was that Zuckerburg started it. Microsoft is making money off the people that upgraded for free.

I am not talking about Steam OS. That is an operating system that you can try on your computer, that will be installed on steam boxes. I am talking about Steam. Downloading Ubuntu Linux, and then downloading the steam client from the store. That is different. Yes Linux, even steam OS will have a super small library, but you can play Wolfenstien 3D, Duke Nukem, and other older dos games in dos box. It may take some tweaking, but I know Linux can host windows files, so it can be done despite being marked Windows. It just means that it has only the windows version of Dos Box included.

No wine does not work 100%. I said that. I know cause I used it. It has glitches.
Saints row and the saboteur, you will have to check the page dealing with known issues. It may have slow downs, it may have graphical glitches. If it works at all, it does mean that you can play it. If your a hard core game looking for beyond 60fps in Wine, then I say not on your life. Driver support is key for any OS. Linux is all community made, so driver support may be highly erratic. The newest games you may have to wait for unless the game is Linux comparable on the steam client.

If the issues here at all bother you, and your a hardcore gamer stick with your console. If you don't want to play on a console, I can't help you. You may have to live with Windows 10, or the possible changes coming to Windows 7 and 8. Microsoft might very well change their minds about the whole update thing for 7 and 8. Wouldn't be the first time a big company changed it's mind due to huge public out cry against it.

You have a license for windows. You don't own it. Microsoft can add whatever the heck they want to it, at any time. It's their property. If they want to wreck it in such a way to try and force users to upgrade to windows 10, they can do it. They shouldn't because they would loose a lot of respect and customers. Doesn't mean they can't.

I loved bill gates's microsoft, so I assure you, that this is not a hate thing. I want people to be aware, because knowledge is power.