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updated meta-room map needed   
raimian

raimian



  5/26/2017

we need a new up to date graphical and listed meta-room map.

i dont think the map has be updated in a long time.

is there someone out there who could do this??

thanks

raimian

 
Lurhstaap

Lurhstaap
United States  

 visit Lurhstaap's website: Addicted To CAOS
  5/26/2017

We really do. As someone interested in making new metarooms - especially big ones - overlap worries me. Wish I had the knowledge/skill to make such a map myself, but alas.

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Pilla

Pilla
Belgium  

 visit Pilla's website: Pilla's DS Agents
  5/26/2017

Ideally, someone who has pretty much every metaroom in existence and a working DS/C3 installation, should just inject every metaroom in order until the agent injector complains, fetch the map from the game with the map editor and save it somewhere, then restart the world and inject the rooms starting at the agent injector decline, and repeat the cycle until all rooms have been added. Then the tedious task of opening all the maps in the map editor on a BIG screen, screenshotting, overlaying and putting their results here. :P

My puny screen size makes this task really tedious, and I don't have a good-working C3 installation so some metarooms I can't do, but maybe there's someone else with a gigantic screen who could easily do this?


OR OR OR
Rascii (or someone else :P) could code some kinda script where you could input metaroom topleft coordinates, width, height, and it would all be visible on some kind of map. This could work kinda like the reservation system too, then 'reservations' could be made, and older metaroom coordinates can be submitted too.

That would be nice.

 
Lurhstaap

Lurhstaap
United States  

 visit Lurhstaap's website: Addicted To CAOS
  5/26/2017

I don't even come CLOSE to having all the metarooms, and my install is a bit flaky, so that's me out. :(

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this is information!"
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ham5ter

ham5ter
Germany  

 visit ham5ter's website: Creatures.Ham5ter.de
  5/26/2017

We could use prayer to inspect all Metaroom Agents, and try to automate the process, No injection needed.

Prayer


moep!

 
Malkin

Malkin
Australia  
Manager


 visit Malkin's website: Malkin's page at CWiki
  5/26/2017

Is Prayer fully-fledged enough to be able to do that?

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Wingheart

Wingheart
New Zealand  


  5/26/2017

I have a lot of metarooms, but I don't have Aquanornia or that other metaroom that isn't a Norngarden that you have to pay for.


My laptop does have a decent screen though, but it's windows 10-does this count me out?

 
Geat_Masta

Geat_Masta
United States  


  5/26/2017  1

Install cygwin and open the cygwin terminal, and enter this code:


grep -aohr "addm [0-9]* [0-9]* [0-9]* [0-9]* \".*\"" "<DOCKING STATION DIRECTORY>"


that will print out all the metaroom adding lines of CAOS in the directory, even if it's in a .agents file.

But we want just the coordinates so do this:


grep -aohr "addm [0-9]* [0-9]* [0-9]* [0-9]* \".*\"" "<DOCKING STATION DIRECTORY>" | awk -F " " '{printf "%.0f\t%.0f\t%.0f\t%.0f\n", $2/10, $3/10, $4/10, $5/10 }'


Which will print out the coordinates at a 1/10th scale.

But we want an image so we do this:


grep -aohr "addm [0-9]* [0-9]* [0-9]* [0-9]* \".*\"" | awk -F " " '{printf " \\draw (%f,%f) rectangle (%f,%f);\n", $2/1000, $3/1000, ($2+$4)/1000, ($3+$5)/1000 }


which will produce output like this:


\draw (19.153000,0.004000) rectangle (20.481000,1.304000);
\draw (18.801000,1.306000) rectangle (20.481000,3.318000);
\draw (21.280000,2.977000) rectangle (22.780000,3.789000);
\draw (20.483000,0.000000) rectangle (23.355000,2.976000);
\draw (20.483000,2.977000) rectangle (21.279000,3.573000);


which we then change to this:

\documentclass{beamer}
\usepackage{tikz}
\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}
\draw (19.153000,0.004000) rectangle (20.481000,1.304000);
\draw (18.801000,1.306000) rectangle (20.481000,3.318000);
\draw (21.280000,2.977000) rectangle (22.780000,3.789000);
\draw (20.483000,0.000000) rectangle (23.355000,2.976000);
\draw (20.483000,2.977000) rectangle (21.279000,3.573000);
\end{tikzpicture}
\end{document}


save that as "map.tex" and open it in texmaker, and run the code (hit F1 to run the code, i don't know why.)

And that will produce a little image of the map in the output display.


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ham5ter

ham5ter
Germany  

 visit ham5ter's website: Creatures.Ham5ter.de
  5/27/2017

THis will work as long as the chunk is not compressed, this is where one could use this
to extract the `AGNT` and `DSAG` Chunks :) but Your Bash script does the heavy lifting of drawing that image :)


moep!

 
Pilla

Pilla
Belgium  

 visit Pilla's website: Pilla's DS Agents
  5/27/2017

- EDIT -

Malkin wrote:
The list is now available at Creatures 3 and Docking Station metaroom coordinates.



^ Go contribute!

Anyone interested in contributing metaroom cooordinates to which you have access? Then we can finish the map based on the contributed coordinates.
You can only add new coordinates at the end.

Please contribute!

 
raimian

raimian



  5/27/2017

you don't need to decompile agent files to get the info, as notepad on windows will read agent files, it just takes 5+ mins to load

 
Malkin

Malkin
Australia  
Manager


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  5/27/2017

Wow, thanks Pilla, that's a great start! Would it be possible at all to move/mirror this data to the Creatures Wiki?

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Pilla

Pilla
Belgium  

 visit Pilla's website: Pilla's DS Agents
  5/28/2017

Malkin: You're free to move/mirror it on there! Once it's on the wiki I can delete my spreadsheet :P
 
Malkin

Malkin
Australia  
Manager


 visit Malkin's website: Malkin's page at CWiki
  5/28/2017

Thank you! It's now available at Creatures 3 and Docking Station metaroom coordinates.

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Pilla

Pilla
Belgium  

 visit Pilla's website: Pilla's DS Agents
  5/29/2017

Yay!

I hope people will go contribute. :)

 
Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko
Germany  


  5/29/2017

The official rooms should be added to the list as well, they sometimes overlap too. Terra Reborn for example throws a hissy fit when any of the C3 terrariums are present.

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Doringo
Lodestar

Doringo
United Kingdom  

 visit Doringo's website: Doringo's Dominion
  5/29/2017  1

I've edited the wiki page adding about 12 addm lines to metarooms listed without them and I have also added about 11 metarooms with their addm lines to the list.

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Pilla

Pilla
Belgium  

 visit Pilla's website: Pilla's DS Agents
  5/29/2017

Except if someone knows of any other metarooms to add, the list looks pretty much complete :D

Now who's up to the task to make a map? :P

 
Pilla

Pilla
Belgium  

 visit Pilla's website: Pilla's DS Agents
  6/10/2017

For whoever cares:

I quickly dumped the wiki contents into a small .html page that displays the coordinates of the maps.

You can find it on my github here

Enjoy! :)
Oh and if anyone wants to fiddle with it to improve it somehow, feel free.

 
Malkin

Malkin
Australia  
Manager


 visit Malkin's website: Malkin's page at CWiki
  6/10/2017

That is some amazing work, Pilla! :D

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Uzag

Uzag
Sweden  

 visit Uzag's website: DeviantArt
  6/11/2017

Splendid stuff! This is extremely useful for developers. Although I'm not a coder myself, I still really appreciate this as a regular player as I can quickly determine what rooms that are compatible. Thanks~
 
Intyalle

Intyalle
New Zealand  

 visit Intyalle's website: Nadia Eat Hand
  6/11/2017

Is that showing the map after being expanded with the CAOS command? Cause otherwise, I'm a little confused as to why so many metarooms overlap, and yet there's *so much* empty space.

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Grendel_Man
Sanely Insane

Grendel_Man
United States  
Manager


 visit Grendel_Man's website: The Realm
  6/11/2017

That looks like an expanded map, yes. Though as to why some metarooms overlap despite all the extra space...some of it's because they were made before expanding the map became commonplace, some because the metaroom creator wanted to use the C3 favorite place icons (which are automatically injected into DS for some reason), and some completely unintentionally.

Also, this is off-topic, but it's been bugging me for a while: What's "the Island?" It's not listed on either Creatures Caves or the Creatures Wiki, and I have never heard of it otherwise.


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Malkin

Malkin
Australia  
Manager


 visit Malkin's website: Malkin's page at CWiki
  6/11/2017

I think it's an old project by Liam, around the time of Charan. I'm not dead certain what it is, either.

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