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Mandymom
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6/13/2016 | |
The Bunny Ettins are in the planning phase+spriting phase. However, what I have decided on is that: The male sprites will be darker then the female ones, they'll have a CFE genome + a Colortrue variety both with realistic bunny colors and one with unrealistic colors. Any other suggestions?
Grendels aren't so bad, but I love Ettins! They're adorable! The complexity of creatures is quite amazing. |
Peppery One
Papriko
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6/13/2016 | 1 |
Make them prefer the "food" category over "seed" or "fruit". Carrots are normally classified as "food".
Maybe minor tweaks to the digestion, so they can live off that biased diet better.
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Lollipop Lord
C-Rex
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6/13/2016 | 2 |
Make them breed like, erm, rabbits! |
FaerieHawk
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6/13/2016 | 1 |
Dunno if it's possible since I know next to nothing about creatures genetics, but since rabbits are known for their speed, maybe this Ettins should move a bit quicker than the average creature?
And since any rabbit I've ever seen is quick to flee instead of fight in times of danger, perhaps these Ettins should be more apt to flee from danger (anything causing them pain or things of that nature)?
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Wrong Banshee
Dragoler
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6/13/2016 | |
I don't think there's a way to make them move faster per se. You could alter their gait and pose genes to move more efficiently, and body data to give a longer stride perhaps? I'm not sure by how much you could really improve the walking animation though.
More flighty Norns are definitely possible, I added a few changes to the TWB fallow genome to make them more flighty around Grendels which you could check if you like. (Thought it was a nice lore-friendly addition to make them stand out more from regular Chichis.)
I am curious to know why you chose CFE as your base and not CFF? CFFs have some quite considerable fixes and the one issue they do have with liver function is quite easy to fix.
Not pushing, just curious.
Creator of the TWB/TCB genome base.
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Mandymom
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6/14/2016 | |
Is CFF better? Um, I'll have both versions I suppose. Spriting will be hard tho because Idk how to really. Is there any tutorials for that?
Grendels aren't so bad, but I love Ettins! They're adorable! The complexity of creatures is quite amazing. |
Sanely Insane
RisenAngel
Manager
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6/14/2016 | |
In my personal opinion, no. The CFF are more an optional upgrade in my eyes; CFE are functional enough on their own and might even have some advantages (in my personal experience, the CFF are somewhat dumber than CFE due to some brain edits meant to make them more curious).
Then again, I'm biased because I really don't like the CFF for a number of reasons. Both are fully functional; use what you wish.
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Lurhstaap
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6/15/2016 | |
Personally I've been using TWB as the basis for mine, which are in turn based on CFF, but that's because mine are dragons and I therefore wanted them to have some specific temperature sensitivity stuff. CFE doesn't seem "smarter" to me, personally, but they're both quite good and I can't personally say I think one is overall 'better' than the other. It just depends on what your goals and intentions for the breed are, and your play style.
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Wrong Banshee
Dragoler
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6/15/2016 | |
Intelligence is hard to gauge, I was just looking at the biological fixes and personally found the fullness lobe to be a godsend which TWBs wouldn't function properly at all without.
But I guess It depends a lot on your intentions. When choosing a genome base, it's good to know the advantages and disadvantages of each:
CFE, CFF, Gizmo(CFE Gizmo), TWB.
Creator of the TWB/TCB genome base.
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Code Monkey
evolnemesis
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6/16/2016 | |
Grendel_Man wrote: Then again, I'm biased because I really don't like the CFF for a number of reasons. Both are fully functional; use what you wish.
It's okay if you don't want to go into it, but I respect you quite a lot as a breedmaker, and I'm really curious what are the main points you dislike about them. I have had a hard time getting much really detailed feedback. Or is it just that they have so many changes? Have you noticed any high rate of sliders in crossbreeds?
The brain edits I understand, I meant to make those optional anyway, it was just kind of something I was messing with, which is why 1.0 didn't have them, only reason I even left them in was that it seemed that most people liked them more... I have seen you use a CFF-like Hungerly Drive Overwhelmsion Organ in some of your custom breeds though, personally I think that's the most meaningful fix out of all of them. Fullness lobe is also nice.
Drowning fix is okay I think, seems to help them a little, since they can at least detect suffocation, but they are still not that bright about figuring out what exactly's going on, or how to get out of (or if they are aquatic, back into..) water. Still it does save their lives sometimes. Drawback is it makes certain forms of death that used to be silent and unnoticed a lot more noticeable and sad...
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Mandymom
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6/16/2016 | |
Excuse me, I was asking if there were any spriting tutorials.
Grendels aren't so bad, but I love Ettins! They're adorable! The complexity of creatures is quite amazing. |
Prodigal Sock
Ghosthande
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6/16/2016 | 2 |
Yes, let's try to keep this on topic if we can; if you want more detailed feedback on your breeds, evol, you're welcome to discuss them with Grendel_Man via private message.
Mandymom, I'm not aware of any specific tutorials for breed sprites, but I have one tutorial here that covers the basics of how sprites work and how to save them. (The end of the tutorial is unfinished, but you only really want to look at this first page anyways--the rest is about coding agents, so it's irrelevant here. You can likewise disregard the part of the tutorial that says you need the CAOS Tool.)
My advice would be to first download Sprite Builder and look at some of the official breeds' sprites to see what they look like. You can use SpriteBuilder to read the sprite files, but you'll need some other program (like Photoshop, GIMP, Paint, etc.) to make your sprites. Most people just start by copying the sprites from an official breed, and then drawing over them to make the sprites for their own breed. This is the easiest way, because it means you know how big the sprites should be and where and how your breed's body parts should be positioned.
Breed sprites are named funky, which can take a little getting used to; I'd recommend starting with a sprite file like a04d.c16, the ChiChi Norn head sprite, if you just want to take a peek at what they look like.
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Mandymom
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6/16/2016 | |
Ok thanks
Grendels aren't so bad, but I love Ettins! They're adorable! The complexity of creatures is quite amazing. |
Code Monkey
evolnemesis
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6/17/2016 | |
Ghosthande wrote: Yes, let's try to keep this on topic if we can; if you want more detailed feedback on your breeds, evol, you're welcome to discuss them with Grendel_Man via private message.
Yeah, sorry, don't know what I was thinking... didn't mean to hijack the thread, it's okay if you move the question to a different one or delete it... I would probably prefer a PM response anyway.
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Mandymom
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6/22/2016 | |
Got some head sprites done. The sprites are (loosely) based on ettin sprites.
Grendels aren't so bad, but I love Ettins! They're adorable! The complexity of creatures is quite amazing. |
Zaf
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6/26/2016 | |
Mandymom wrote: Got some head sprites done. The sprites are (loosely) based on ettin sprites. You should show the sprites you have done so far, I am quite interested in seeing what bunny ettins are. |
Mandymom
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6/28/2016 | |
I'll upload them to imgur.
Grendels aren't so bad, but I love Ettins! They're adorable! The complexity of creatures is quite amazing. |
Zaf
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6/28/2016 | |
Mandymom wrote: I'll upload them to imgur. awesome |
Mandymom
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6/30/2016 | |
http://imgur.com/a/j4gzi
I discovered a BIG problem on Windows 8. I can't copy things! When I right click, it deselects the text! Then I can't copy! the only reason I managed to even GIVE the pictures is that imgur has a button where you can copy the url. Call me lazy, but I can't type that. At all. I named the sprites wrong, not like what you said to do. I plan on making a less cutesy version.
Grendels aren't so bad, but I love Ettins! They're adorable! The complexity of creatures is quite amazing. |
Mioonktoo
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6/30/2016 | |
Cute sprites so far!
I don't know if you're on a desktop/laptop computer or a tablet, but for the former for your issue try keycombo Ctrl+C for copying (after selecting the text) and then after clicking on the intended document or text input space do Ctrl+V to paste. Errrr.... Just remember that the + in there just means those two keys, not the actual + key.
Since I don't own a tablet/tablet computer I have no idea what to do to help you there.
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Mandymom
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7/1/2016 | |
I'm actually running Windows on a Mac (It's complicated) But I think that OS X DOES have a similar feature. I'll try that.
Grendels aren't so bad, but I love Ettins! They're adorable! The complexity of creatures is quite amazing. |
Mandymom
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9/17/2016 | |
Finished baby head sprites 0-11. Since the rest of the head sprites are edits of that I don't have to do as much work now.
Grendels aren't so bad, but I love Ettins! They're adorable! The complexity of creatures is quite amazing. |
Mandymom
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9/28/2017 | |
Update on this project: After a long hiatus, it has been put on temporary hold for another secret project I'm working on. I lost the work I had done previously, and need to start from scratch, but I have learned from my previous experience and will hopefully create a better end product in the long run.
Grendels aren't so bad, but I love Ettins! They're adorable! The complexity of creatures is quite amazing. |