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Tohru1529

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  6/4/2017

Intyalle | 4/28/2017
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Intyalle:I've nicknamed this little male Dawn, as that was the word in his moniker and very well suited, as it turned out! He's a pure Fallout norn, and though he started the normal green, he turned this beautiful shade of gold, prompting me to export him.

Unfortunately, he did not pass the IQ portion of the run, dying not long after re-import. I don't know if this death is avoidable, but you're welcome to try.

I have only listed Bengal in the sprites, because Fallouts only use Bengal sprites - I have no idea whether those Bruin parts will actually show as such to anyone else. They are mutated, and could just be defaulting to Bruin due to an empty slot.

I went to adoptions and saw Intyalle norn. I want you all too read her story of her norn. That why I put it up there. Please don't be mad.
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Tohru: I have Dawn his name change to something different. His new name is Bhasin.in the game and he is still alive. He die in my first world. But in my new world he sill around. I'll keep you posted on him. He is so cute. When I got him,he was 10 mins old now he 19 mins and still going strong. He was sick he all heal and doing well. I am keeping him in the sick aria until I know he good to come out. I am afraid he will die but I am not going to let that happen. I will keep you all posted as he strive along.


 
Tohru1529

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  6/4/2017

Update on Dawn aka Bhasin. He is and adult unbelievable that he is alive and still striving,I must be doing something right to keep him alive in my world. Here is update pics and he has a girlfriend, same norn kind as him no color witch I am not sure how you get that. If he has a kid I let you know.








 
Intyalle

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I'm a she, Tohru :P And good job keeping him alive. When I posted him, I was a little worried it wouldn't be doable, as he died within only a couple of minutes of being imported, and - being part of an IQ run - had of course not eaten anything his whole life before that, and so I was reasonably concerned that I'd imported him just before he starved to death, with too little time to actually do anything about that.

That said, you and Pilla both managed to avoid him dying immediately, so it's far more likely at this stage that he just had SIDS (sudden import death syndrome), which is a thing that happens sometimes and was the other contender ranked high in my mind for cause of death. That's why I gave the warning I did; I suspected it was just SIDS (and therefore easily avoidable, being only a matter of a chance), but couldn't be sure.


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Tohru1529

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  6/4/2017

Intyalle wrote:
I'm a she, Tohru :P And good job keeping him alive. When I posted him, I was a little worried it wouldn't be doable, as he died within only a couple of minutes of being imported, and - being part of an IQ run - had of course not eaten anything his whole life before that, and so I was reasonably concerned that I'd imported him just before he starved to death, with too little time to actually do anything about that.

That said, you and Pilla both managed to avoid him dying immediately, so it's far more likely at this stage that he just had SIDS (sudden import death syndrome), which is a thing that happens sometimes and was the other contender ranked high in my mind for cause of death. That's why I gave the warning I did; I suspected it was just SIDS (and therefore easily avoidable, being only a matter of a chance), but couldn't be sure.



Opps I ment to say she I fix it. I am glad he still alive and happy. Could you tell me how you got him that color? I keep you posted

 
Intyalle

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  6/4/2017

It was a random mutation. Fallout norns are just Bengals with green tints and the mutation rates of all their genes set really, really high.

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Lurhstaap

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  6/4/2017

I just sent a long explanation of how color genes work to Geat_Masta. Here it is for you, Tohru - this will help you understand colored Norns. If you want a Norn with non-default colors and don't want to wait for mutations to happen, you'll have to edit a genome to make it colored. You use the Genetics Kit for C3, or whichever other genetics editor you'd prefer, and open the genome you want to use. Then edit the color genes as described:

"I don't know if you know much about color theory. I am going to type this assuming you don't know it just in case. If I cover some things you already know, please bear with me.

So, pigment is handled in two ways. Pigment genes affect the coloration of the sprite directly. Like all graphics displayed on a monitor, the sprites are ultimately made of red, green, and blue. Each pixel is a varying combination of those three colors, with the amount of each producing the visible color our eyes see. This is not the same as paint mixing. Blue plus red makes purple still, but yellow is not a primary color in light - it is a roughly even mix of red and green. Orange is the same mix but with much more red light in the mix. And violet, as opposed to purple, is actually a pure spectral color, though monitors cannot display it due to how they work, using the primary colors RGB to mix the rest.

So each sprite has default colors created by the graphic artist that made it. The default scenario is that all three primary colors are shown as normal for the sprite. This is the 128 middle setting on the pigment genes. If the slider is raised, more of that color is added to the sprite, and if it is lowered, some of that color is removed from the sprite.

Adding color this way is where those ugly colors come from. The ones where they look soaked in dye or like they're standing under a strongly colored light source instead of being colored that way naturally. But if the added color isn't too intense it can still look good. I prefer to remove colors, though, as the visual result is much better most of the time. They still look naturally colored, it's just different​ because one, two, or all three colors have been minimized. You can't completely get rid of a color, so even "black" creatures have some color to them. But it's very, very dark, dramatically different than 128 in all colors.

Here's an example of how I use this. The Draconian sprites are mostly green with yellow and a shade of brown that is actually a very dark, dull yellow or orange. So if I drop green pigment, leaving red and blue at 128, the result is as follows. (If you want to see it, search on the downloads here for an uploaded Norn named Artistry.)

The green portion becomes a very, very deep blue-purple that looks black or blue-black to most people. This is because the green portion had high G, a little B, and very little R. So removing G leaves little pigment of any sort left in those areas.

At the same time, the yellow belly becomes bright red, as the G is gone and no blue is used to mix the yellow. (Although on females the ​red comes out very sightly pink, meaning a bit more blue is present.)

The yellow eyes become more orange, as the amount of green left is just enough to prevent it from being red.

So to get a fiery-eyed, black and red dragon, all I have to do is edit the Green pigment genes so the slider is on the far left/the 'bottom'.

The bleed genes, meanwhile, are a little more complex in how they work. There are two components to a bleed gene. Rotation and swap.

Rotation is the one most people have the hardest time understanding. Basically, picture a simple RGB color wheel. Rotation spins that wheel, changing the colors in a predictable way. Reds become greens become blues, et cetera. I have heard conflicting​ statements about whether it affects green or not though. One source says it does, but another claims it affects only red and blue. I think the former is correct but I have not actually experimented to test that yet. It's on my list of things to do someday.

Swap, on the other hand, does affect only red and blue. It does what it says - swaps one to the other gradually. It also works by degree of difference from 128. That is, it doesn't matter whether you move the slider right or left. 0 and 255 are the same degree of distance from center, so have the same result. On that black and red dragon, full swap turns the red parts blue and the blue parts red, so that the belly is bright blue and the dark areas now have a reddish tinge instead of blueish.

I was actually working on a set of images and notes for simple color variants for the dragons. It has pictures of each variant and a description of the genes needed to make it happen. I can post that on my blog of it would be helpful?

This works the same for all breeds, of course, but the base colors of the breed change the results. You couldn't make a black and red Chichi just by dropping G, as they aren't green by default. In fact I don't think a G knockout Chichi would look all that different than a normal one as they are largely purple."

A yellow Norn like Dawn probably has elevated levels of both red and green, and possibly reduced blue.


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the1whoscreams

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  6/5/2017

Huh. I learned a lot about color genes from that. I might consider screwing around with pigments when I get home today. Still don't know how neon creatures happen, though.
 
Tohru1529

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  6/5/2017

Intyalle update on Dawn aka Bhasin he had 2 children. He only live up to 1 hour and 33 mins. When I first brought him in my 2nd world, I gave him a shot. The shot that I gave him was 100
Antihistamine Combats histamines, stopping sneezing and coughing. I also should of give him 99 Vitamin C Keeps bones healthy, aids in healing from injuries. I am going to tried a 4th time with him. When I did the 2nd time I brought he only live for 58 mins. When I brought him the 3th time he only live for 12 mins. I will keep you hope I can get him to live longer. Thank for letting me try him Intalle.

 
Tohru1529

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Here is Dawn aka Bhasin. He is so cute I love him so much More update soon. Hope he stay alive this time. I am keeping in the recovery room. I am keeping my eye on him.

 
Tohru1529

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More update ok Dawn aka Bhasin. He doing well he is a youth 52 mins. I got heal and all of then sudden he got sick again,but I don't know how to get rid of it. I have a picture maybe you can tell me what med shot I can used to get rid of it.

 
Intyalle

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  6/5/2017

Ouch! Glycotoxin is a nasty one :/ The chemical list on the wiki says Arnica is the cure for glycotoxin.

Unfortunately, with such a high mutation rate, Fallouts often *don't* survive very long even when they don't get SIDS :P 2nd gen onwards often have a lot of very serious things wrong with them, internally, and indeed Fallout norns have the highest stillborn rate I've ever seen, except maybe for Toxic crossbreeds.


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Tohru1529

Tohru1529


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  6/5/2017

ok thank you

 
Tohru1529

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  6/5/2017

Dawn aka Bhasin he doing so much better I got rid of Glycotoxin. I am still keeping him in the recover room. He has a wife name Brittney. She had her first child name Christine. She did not live for long. She was 0mins when she die. I am wonder if she had sids what do you think Intyalle. Also Brittney is pregnant again. Hope this child stay strong and alive. I will give shot once she lay the egg and its hatchs.

This is Christine when she was just born. Rip Christine

This is the little family

 
Intyalle

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  6/5/2017

SIDS is specifically when you import a norn, not when one is born. More likely it's as mentioned before, especially since you seem to be breeding Fallouts together. That really high mutation chance applies to all genes, which means that very, very often what mutates are functions critical to a norn's survival. That's what most of the genes are for, after all.

The result is that Fallout norns have a very high rate of stillbirths and other early deaths.


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Tohru1529

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  6/5/2017

Intyalle wrote:
SIDS is specifically when you import a norn, not when one is born. More likely it's as mentioned before, especially since you seem to be breeding Fallouts together. That really high mutation chance applies to all genes, which means that very, very often what mutates are functions critical to a norn's survival. That's what most of the genes are for, after all.

The result is that Fallout norns have a very high rate of stillbirths and other early deaths.


Ok I guess I can't breed them because all 3 children die. I tried to save the 3rd child but her heart was to weak. I have them separated.

 
Intyalle

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  6/5/2017

You *can* breed them, there's just a high stillbirth rate. That's true no matter what you breed a Fallout with, btw, it's just exacerbated when you breed Fallouts together.

Dawn himself came after something like a half dozen stillbirths/early life deaths.


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Tohru1529

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  6/5/2017

o ok
 
Tohru1529

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  6/5/2017

Intyalle A sad and A big update on dawn Aka Bhasin. Bhasin is doing well he is now almost 2 hours old. Sad news Brittney got pregnant 5 times. All 4 baby die but one live he is 2 mins old I am keep my eye on him. Brittney had 3 girls and 2 boys. At lets he still alive. Fingers cross the he strive thought. I got a pictures of him,and all 4 kids that past. I put the pictures of his children that die. Rip the 4. Brittney is still around and doing well keeping husband safe. Bhasin miss her so much.
1st child

2ndChild

3rd child name was Christdore she look like Christine. So no photo of the 3rd child

4th child



Meet Castor he is the 5th Child that is serving. He lost all 4 of his siblings Rip all 4.

 
Intyalle

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  6/6/2017

Dang, those were some pretty colours on #2-#4, too. Shame to lose them.

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Tohru1529

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  6/6/2017

Intyalle wrote:
Dang, those were some pretty colours on #2-#4, too. Shame to lose them.


Yup I keep on trying maybe a female that look like 2 thought 4. More update soon

 
Tohru1529

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  6/6/2017

Dawn aka Bhasin and Brittney broke up. He keep on saying Bhasin dislike Brittney. So Brittney no longer together with him. Brittney with her child. I took pictures of Birttney and Castor. Castor has a crush on Aska. Aska is a boy. I am going to get Castor to like a girl not a boy. Dawn aka Bhasin has a new girlfriend/wife now. Here are photos of everyone.


Dawn aka Bhasin and Babette

Brittney and Castor


Castor and Aska

Dawn aka Bhasin and Babette




 
Tohru1529

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  6/6/2017

Update on Dawn aka Bhasin and Babette here is photo of there new child. He is so cute, Intyalle your go love his colors.










Dawn aka Bhasin,Babette and Chiyosaburo


 
Tohru1529

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  6/6/2017

Update sad news both Dawn aka Bhasin and Chiyosaburo die in my world. Rip to both of them at lest he live for 2 hours and 45mins. Chiyosaburo live up to be 7mins just a baby :(. No more update.
 
Lurhstaap

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  6/7/2017  1

@Sav: Not sure what you meant by "neon", but you're probably thinking of pigments with values higher than 128. Maxing out the pigment at 255 is what gives the really intense (imo ugly) dyed/paint-dipped look.



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