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NoxTheNorn

NoxTheNorn



  11/20/2014  2

In the C2 strict wolfling run I'm currently conducting, I noticed something I don't remember seeing before. One of the female norns was comatose as a result of neglecting to feed herself properly, and two others were standing next to her (unfortunately, they were so close together that the one was mostly blocking the other from my vision). As C2 norns often do, they were alternately tickling and hitting the comatose norn (perhaps because they were either trying to revive it or, most likely, because they don't know what coma is and have trouble distinguishing it from sleep). The norn which I could see was also bending over and reaching out toward the comatose norn...and when the comatose norn died and her body began rising into the sky, the other norn looked up and reached up as if trying to hold onto the dead norn and keep her from leaving. Very odd.

Oh, and I've also noticed that at least in this particular world, Pitz has a tendency to go over to dying Ettins and sit very close to them as if he's keeping them company so they don't have to die all alone -- even though the Ettins pay no attention to Pitz when they are alive. Also very odd, I thought.

 
evolnemesis
Code Monkey

evolnemesis



  11/20/2014  2

That's interesting... I haven't really played C2 much myself, but I want to mention something weird I never figured out in C3/DS... I have noticed that it seems like when I have a sick norn, and I usher it to the medbay and treat it, that after that, it will have a tendency to beeline for the medbay when it's sick and go lay in front of the treatment machine... I'm not sure if this is some kind of programmed behavior or what, but it seems to be only really with norns I have treated before. Other than following smells, I didn't think their navigation would let them find a specific location on the ship... (maybe it's just all the machinery on the bridge?)

That, and I have noticed a tendency for them to get obsessed with the anti-bacterial sprayer after they have been cured by it.. going towards it a lot, carrying it with them, spraying other norns... making a beeline for it if sick or another norn even mentions being sick... I don't usually keep a lot of gadgets or machines around, maybe they are just associating machines with getting better in that case?

Whatever it is, it definitely seems like they make some kind of strong connection in their brain when they get cured, I guess there is a lot of negative stuff and bad feelings when they are sick, and they must be pretty bad, since they seem to associate them going away quite strongly with the last thing they did or even the last place they were when they got cured... (and I also notice them being extra grateful to the hand, like almost instantly loving it if it was around them when they were cured...) it's interesting though since as far as I can tell they don't have a specific thing in their genetics that would do that directly, only possibly emergent behavior.

I noticed something similar in some of KittyTikara's snowbound norns, where a female norn quickly lost her instinct to go to the incubator pan to lay eggs (a very strong instinct) because she seemed to have easily noticed and learned that she would get sick from the heat, which gave her a painful cough when she sat near that spot to lay.


"For small creatures such as we, the vastness is bearable only through love."
"We are a way for the cosmos to know itself." - Carl Sagan

 
NoxTheNorn

NoxTheNorn



  11/20/2014

That is intriguing, especially since it mimics natural phenomena such as taste aversion (in which animals can develop an avoidant response to a food simply as a result of one episode of illness coming close on the heels of consuming that food, even if the illness resulted from something different and the animal has consumed the food many times before without any unpleasant effects).
 
ylukyun
Patient Pirate

ylukyun

Manager



  11/22/2014

Do creatures know when another creature is asleep?

Edit: I'll check Pitz's script at some stage to see if he recognizes Ettins as distinct from other creatures.

 
evolnemesis
Code Monkey

evolnemesis



  11/22/2014  1

Pretty sure they can't tell if another creature is asleep particularly... although they might be less stimulating to them than other creatures because they aren't moving around or talking, so they are possibly a bit less likely to be the focus of attention if there are other creatures or stimulating things around (unless the creature really likes the sleeping creature a lot, in which case, the creature will probably still focus on the sleeper and try to push it or whatever anyway...)

"For small creatures such as we, the vastness is bearable only through love."
"We are a way for the cosmos to know itself." - Carl Sagan

 


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